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Obama threatening veterans’ gun rights

The Obama administration has launched into a campaign that threatens the Second Amendment rights of American military veterans, sending out letters that say their competency to handle their own affairs is being reviewed, and if determined by government bureaucrats to be unable to handle their affairs, they would be barred from having any weapons.

The issue is being raised by officials with the United States Justice Foundation, which takes up cases involving civil and religious rights.

In a statement posted on the organization’s website, Executive Director Michael Connelly said his organization is pursuing a Freedom of Information Act demand to the Department of Veterans Affairs to “force them to disclose the criteria they are using to place veterans on the background check list that keeps them from exercising their Second Amendment rights.”



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  1. $13614178

    February 22, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    He is preparing for his ” martial law ” takeover and knows that REAL Americans that have taken an oath to defend the constitution instead of him could pose a serious resistance .

    • foxxybey

      February 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm

      Marineh2ominer; This old Marine has read how Hitler came to power and obozo has used that play book all along, the next step is to have guns taken away and then marshall law and fema camps for those who don’t play along and since many of them have gas connected to them, many won’t be coming back. Hitler all over again and this Jewish Marine will die before I give into this nazi plan. God Bless Friend, Your Family and Friends:

      • TexasOlTimer

        February 23, 2013 at 8:49 am

        Hitler would be proud that Obama is following his lead….

        “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police.” – Adolf Hitler 1933

        “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future” – Adolf Hitler 1935

        • Benjamin Fox

          February 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm

          I’ve got the second quote on my front door along with another. “Since bullets are getting costly, don’t expect a warning shot”.

  2. disqus_TmKqa4GTbK

    February 22, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    This is the U.S. not Obamas personal playhouse.

    • seb27

      February 22, 2013 at 10:11 pm

      Tell him that!

  3. malcom excriment

    February 22, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    Lee Harvey Oswald, where are you now that we really need you? James Earl Ray, where are you now that we really need you? Oh, I forgot, they both worked for the CIA who are behind this!

    • Berzrkr50

      February 22, 2013 at 6:07 pm

      I’ve been thinking the same thing for the longest time. Good help isn’t easy to find!

    • falcon

      February 22, 2013 at 6:26 pm

      Weren’t they dimacrat’s ?

  4. Ed Williams

    February 22, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    This bears very close watching, folks. Our vets have had our backs all along. Now it’s “We the People’s” turn…

    • edro3111

      February 22, 2013 at 6:33 pm

      Ed, I’m with you brother!

  5. starri

    February 22, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Has anyone researched what the VA Form 21-4138 is? it’s the form that vet’s use when seeking reconsideration of their disability rates, nothing to do with the deciding of whether or not their mentally or physically capable of taking care of their finances, does the form require addition evidence about their case? yes, you need to show a worsening of your condition to qualify for the increase. This is just one of the many websites that can be used to view the form and it’s intended use, . I will not debate whether or not the government is actually out to take a vets right to carry away, as I am not privvy to the thoughts of these people, I am in no way a “anti-gun” nut. have my own and will be getting the cwp in the next month. But I know there is nothing that is going to fuel the chaos already going on faster than a child molester, than threatening to attack our Vets. I stand behind our constitution and am willing to stand in front of it to protect it.

  6. foxxybey

    February 22, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    This veteran has been through 3 conflicts and I won’t give up my weapon unless they take it out of my cold dead hands.

    • John The Baptist

      February 22, 2013 at 8:06 pm

      I’m with you on that foxxybey.

      • Benjamin Fox

        February 22, 2013 at 8:45 pm

        Thanks friend I believe that will be sooner then later. God Bless Friend:

  7. pysco

    February 22, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    I can only think of one word that describes our President: TRAITOR.

    • Sam Wicks Jr

      February 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm

      Freedom hater also comes to mind. Hide your weapons and ammo in a cool dry place. You may need it at a moments notice……

      • Doc

        February 22, 2013 at 9:27 pm

        Hide it, my ass! I will stand and fight.

    • jollypirate

      February 24, 2013 at 12:51 pm

      He may be Your potus but not MINE he is a socialist / musslim from the word go and needs to be tried an convicted for treason

  8. Wheelgunr

    February 22, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Obviously, he’s afraid that well trained marksmen, along with any other Americans with weapons training, might pose a problem for his personal army, the DHS

    • John The Baptist

      February 22, 2013 at 8:16 pm

      What if you were an expert riflemen in the service? Does that count for anything?

      • TexasOlTimer

        February 23, 2013 at 8:51 am

        Oh, yeah! I’d like you by my side! I’m still a better shot than my boys but gettin’ a bit old to hold it as steady as I’d like.

  9. pysco

    February 22, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Anybody in Congress that would back this play is a traitor to the veterans, and citizens of the United States.

  10. PAJ

    February 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    Remember Homeland Security head labeled all of us “Veterans, constitutionalists, firearms owners, and Republicans” as most likely terrorists!!! And if I recall right, he is trying to make her a lifetime judge as well.

    I did not know that by signing up to allow myself to be killed defending these yokels would make me a terrorist who would kill anyone that I did not like. Seems that his group of “home grown terrorists” want to do just that.

    • TexasOlTimer

      February 23, 2013 at 8:58 am

      Many states, including Texas, have bills in the legislature this session stating that they won’t follow any federal gun control laws. Our local sheriffs are saying that they won’t enforce them in any event. Wonder if this will extend to vets the criminals in DC decide aren’t ‘competent’ to own one? We know this is only a part of their ‘get the guns out of the hands of those that can handle them and are willing to shoot us’ game plan.

      Personally I’d rather one of these ‘incompetent’ vets be beside me than most individuals I know when it comes time!


    February 22, 2013 at 6:13 pm


  12. falcon

    February 22, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    I can’t be violent,racists,vulgar,or discourteous so I will just say Fxxk Em all.

  13. The Old Man

    February 22, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    No Problem…. This letter is only sent to the service MAN, not his wife. That means he will have access to whatever gun she may have or get from a relative.

  14. Meatface

    February 22, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    And what about HIPA

  15. Gman61

    February 22, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Whos got the fear here? I did my time and now he’s getting scared of what could happen should the tables turn?? Fire For Effect, when will we ever Impeach this guy?

  16. Steve Bergh

    February 22, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    Illegal laws, also – any politician who supports such actions is committing treason against their oath of office

  17. colt38

    February 22, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    I remember something about an oath. I will defend this country and the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. And the 21-4138 is a statement prepared by the vet to present evidence in support of his claim. It is not the form used to appoint a person in charge of the veterans financial business. The 21-4138 is not a form used to determine the competency of a veteran. That is done during a C&P exam by a physician who is trained to determine the competency of the veteran who has applied for this disability. I hope the Department of Justice Foundation pounds sand on this one. It is a huge violation of the 5th Amendment, and not to mention the 3rd, 4th, and 5th. We don’t even need to bring up the 2nd.

  18. Jorgy

    February 22, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    This is garbage. Only a court can declare a person incompatent to handle his own affairs. This is only a means of disarming good compatent people

    • Doc

      February 22, 2013 at 9:30 pm

      Since when has this “president” ever paid any attention to or had ant respect for OUR Constitution?

  19. Terry Corcoran

    February 22, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    The only terrorists I see are wearing Homeland Security Uniforms.

  20. Doc

    February 22, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    As a disable vet I can promise you they will not have my guns while I draw breath.

  21. seb27

    February 22, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    What’s he afraid of ?

  22. leviguy1947

    February 22, 2013 at 11:47 pm

    Does it make sense that if a veteran is unable to competently manage his money then he is also unable to tell the difference between an intruder in his home and his wife or kids? I don’t see how one has anything to do with the other. A veteran who is found to be incompetent to manage his VA funds may also be very capable of other activities of daily living (housekeeping, shopping, laundry, etc.). How is such a himself so dangerous to himself or others that the government takes from him the most effective means/method of defending himself? The obvious answer is- ‘he is not a danger!’. I understand the government is under pressure to do something about violent crime and the recent horrific mass killings. But veterans should not be singled out because their medical records are readily available. All it does is tell us that we cannot be honest with our VA doctors for fear our mere thoughts will be used to disarm us. Obama really should think this one through. There are risks to taking away someome’s guns, especially if that person has defended this country using guns and now that he is no longer part of the military he cannot be trusted to know a good guy from a bad one. Dangerous ground………….


    February 22, 2013 at 11:54 pm


  24. r brownlee

    February 23, 2013 at 12:07 am

    I am with you my brother’s on arms. may GOD bless us.

  25. Chief47

    February 23, 2013 at 12:13 am

    It’s time that vets take a cue from the criminals, since that is how Obama wants to treat the vets. Go out and get your illegal guns on the streets and nobody knows that you have them until you have to use them.

  26. DeathFromTheShadows

    February 23, 2013 at 2:21 am

    marineh2ominer and everyone else spouting Martial law wake up and read the laws, Only Governors can declare Martial Law. so get on THEIR asses and get them to recall call ALL state troops they ILLEGALLY assigned to national service (another illegal act), as the National guard, by LAW is NOT to be used for federal service. NOW as for nation wide martial law. Look around you… see the fuel prices? Food prices? The CREATED ammo shortages ( the Social Security Admin DOES NOT have ANY armed Agents, they use the FBI) brought on by massive government purchases… The increase in the shortage of AR-15s due to the DHS purchase, when the DHS would normally buy M4s? THESE are all financial manipulations on the part of the administration to bring about a virtual STATE of “martial law” since the president can not declare one. And every one of you who are yelling that he is going to are ignorant to the fact that through the food safety act that cranked food prices, decreasing ability of most people to stockpile, fuel prices limiting travel, ammo and weapon shortages decreasing the ability of those who have not yet armed up to do so, the return of the destruction of once fired brass by the military despite congressional order and law, again preventing ammo stockpiling by civilians… and his tethering people to their local welfare office, IS ALL he needs to do… YOU ARE HERE and you do not realize it.

    • birdcage

      February 25, 2013 at 9:55 am

      Fusion Centers and The Council of Governors.

  27. mickey

    February 23, 2013 at 5:51 am

    WHY are we taking orders from an Arrogant/Illegal/Fraud/Muslim, who is an Illegal president, and is doing his best to kill off everythingwe hold dearly in America? This guy has been allowed to do everything he wants to further the ruination of the United States. He has many Treasonous Actions gainst the U.S. enough to put him jail for a long time, TREASON being the first. How much longer are we going to put up with Kook? Why is our congress doing nothing to take him out, you can sure as hell see, the direction he is taking us is the wrong way. This amgry Muslim make Nixon look like a boy scout. Obama is even into having some of our diplomats . Hell, he’s not even legal, and we’re following his Illegal orders?

  28. BBD

    February 23, 2013 at 7:08 am

    Time has come to remove this man by any means necessary.

  29. DMDVNV

    February 23, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Obama is not a citizen of the United States, so he shouldn,t be president in the first place. He should be in prison. Congress backs him because there are 82 Socialist like Obama in office to help him get his bills passed. If he doesn’t get what he wants he just signs an exective order. He just signed 23 of them on gun control. He is making it harder for legal Americans, and giving illegal a free ticket with benifits.

    Everyone is correct. He is the new Hitler, and is doing what Hilter did.
    I pray every chance I get That GOD will Bless America again. I’m a totally and perminatly disabled veteran and it’s good to hear that others feel as I do. GOD Bless you all.


    February 23, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    HEY OBAMA, if y o u want our guns AFTER we PROTECTED your ASS and the Rights and freedoms of Your Family and Ancestors for hundreds of Years,You can send Letters,Call Us,Send Carrier Pigeons, Or Friggen Smoke signals., Better Yet COME and TRY and TAKE THEM.!!!!!!

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