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ATF’s latest gun grab

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ATF’s latest gun grab

The Obama administration is making it easier for bureaucrats to take away guns without offering the accused any realistic due process. In a final rule published last week, the Justice Department granted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) authority to “seize and administratively forfeit property involved in controlled-substance abuses.” That means government can grab firearms and other property from someone who has never been convicted or even charged with any crime.

It’s a dangerous extension of the civil-forfeiture doctrine, a surreal legal fiction in which the seized property — not a person — is put on trial. This allows prosecutors to dispense with pesky constitutional rights, which conveniently don’t apply to inanimate objects. In this looking-glass world, the owner is effectively guilty until proved innocent and has the burden of proving otherwise. Anyone falsely accused will never see his property again unless he succeeds in an expensive uphill legal battle.

Such seizures are common in drug cases, which sometimes can ensnare people who have done nothing wrong. James Lieto found out about civil forfeiture the hard way when the FBI seized $392,000 from his business because the money was being carried by an armored-car firm he had hired that had fallen under a federal investigation. As the Wall Street Journal reported, Mr. Lieto was never accused of any crime, yet he spent thousands in legal fees to get his money back.



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  1. regulus30

    September 8, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    this bunch has infiltrated every law and civil right we have;; may not be able to reverse them;; more reason to impeach the imposter in order to nullify all he has signed into law or by executive orders.

  2. $13614178

    September 8, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Considering your lack of tolerance for the first amendment as stated above I have no comment on the esteemed Obamass administration and their lapdog the ATF&E on secong amendement or any other constitutional violations , including the great job they are going with the search and seize and firearm confiscation .

    • PissedoffVet

      September 14, 2012 at 8:38 am

      You must not be an American

  3. bigdog137

    September 8, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    This bunch needs to go away! The CONSTITUTION does not allow for this nonsense! 2nd Amendment is in effect, whether these nut-jobs like it or not!

  4. DouglasDauntless

    September 8, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Obama, the Clintons and the Communist Demo-rats and REpublicans want we the people unarmed. John McCain who people look up too believes that people should not own a gun. Remember the people who own the guns control everyone. 2 armed men can march 2 thousand people to their deaths by what ever the Government says they should die in, gas chambers, normal salughter into a mass grave, or beheaded by the Muslims. People on TV, Bill O’Reilly for one says Obama is a nice guy, he likes him. Obama and the Clinton’s are stone hearted killers of mankind. Take away our guns and we be slaughted by Obama’s Green Army led by Bill Ayers. Obama is a Traitor and a snake!!!

  5. John Joshua Sweet

    September 8, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    The EPA and the ATF doing Obamas bidding. The problem is that they will determine just what crimes are to take away all of our guns. Already they have detains veterans on trumped up charges with out arrest or trial placing them inside mental facilities. They define what will be a crime and lately that has been any one that is productive, working hard for a living, a veteran or a vocal opponent to the Obama regime.

  6. Dean

    September 8, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    We are going to need all those FEMA camps to imprison all of the criminals in this administration from Obama on down.

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