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Massachusetts’ Strict Gun Laws Did Nothing To Prevent Violence At Boston Marathon

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Massachusetts’ Strict Gun Laws Did Nothing To Prevent Violence At Boston Marathon

Within days of the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December, President Barack Obama and liberals across the country began pushing for stricter gun control laws to supposedly reduce violence. They all claim that it was guns and high capacity ammunition clips that caused the violence that left 20 kids and 6 adults.

Massachusetts has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. Everyone in the state should feel safe. So safe in fact that the atmosphere for the Boston Marathon yesterday was very celebratory and everyone was having a great time.

The first runners in the marathon crossed the finished line at the 2 hour 10 minute and 22 second mark. Over an hour and half later, many others were still crossing the finish line. At the 3 hour 49 minute mark, a bomb that had been placed in a trash can near the finish line exploded. Fifteen seconds later another trash can bomb blew up a couple blocks down from the finish line.

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  • CaptTurbo

    Of course those laws did nothing. Besides any and all gun control laws being un-Constitutional, they only apply to and affect law abiding citizens. Eject these anti American morons from our government.

    • fearlesskris

      Oh you can bet we’ll be getting rid of the anti American morons from the government – starting with li’l Rand Paul, Joe McCarth…oh I meant Ted Cruz, Michele “Bat Shite” crazy Bachmann…the short list from the short bus. Now tell me again…the guns would have been useful at the Boston Marathon how? You would have fired upon whom? Or are you just stroking your “weapon” again…

      • leviguy1947

        the point made is that no matter how strict gun laws are fashioned, they are impotent to stop someone for whom legality is irrelevant. guns are effective when defending oneself or the lives of others when confronted by a physical threat – not a hidden bomb. hard to believe you actually tried to say we (pro gun people) asserted we could have prevented the bombings if only we had a handgun there. And, do not confuse individual politicians with a movement. but then again maybe you do want to get rid of Rand Paul. He is dangerous from your perspective.

      • ixnay00

        you sound like one the left win crazy people who infiltrate blogs to cause problems. you are a moron

        • 1tymtrvlr

          Actually he/she/it has the cowardly, hand wringing, bed and pants wetting marxist spiel down pretty good. Let me give you some advise that was given to me years ago, ” never ever try and talk sense to a druggie, drunk, the mentally challenged, imbecile, moron, idiot, liberal or marxist, it is a total waste of time. Those groups are told what to believe and what to say, even if it doesn’t make sense to them, they have no original thought of their own.
          It is hard to make them understand concepts of time, like ” when seconds count, the police are minutes away “. Perfect gun control is proper stance, clear vision and using both hands. Hold your breath, squeeze don’t pull or jerk.

          • fearlesskris

            Oh my, that is my LOL for the day – in my biz we have a name for that – Projection. You haz it. No one wants to take all your guns away. I know that some actually feed their families with the hunting they do. I know that some face real danger in the wildlife they come across in rural areas. I know that some families live alone in remote farm and ranch areas and I am never going to stand up for taking their weapons away – they have real concerns. The nuances and differences between those folks who do have real concerns and the gun hoarder who lives in a nice little bedroom suburb – say in Connecticut – or one who lives in the city seem to be too difficult for those here to comprehend. It is insanity to believe otherwise. And thank god there’s going to be someone like me determining the sanity of potential gun owners in the future. Paranoia about your fellow human beings is going to be the first red flag…

        • fearlesskris

          Ah another who cannot respond or debate a point. But I’m impressed you know how to use “infiltrate” in a sentence – and spell it correctly. See, it’s so very easy to trade insults but so very difficult to have a rational discussion. I will ask again – what has made the people here so very fearful and paranoid?

          • reggiec

            Why fearful and paranoid? I would start with the increase in the size, scope and increasing control the federal government is pushing. In addition the gun control measures being proposed will do nothing to prevent gun violence. Some promoting the controls have even admitted as much. They will however make it more difficult for innocent, law abiding people to obtain firearms to protect themselves. I will ask why you would support laws that make life difficult for the law abiding when the left in many cases refuses to allow the increased sentencing on the books for a criminal that uses a gun to commit a crime.
            ***
            “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.” James Madison
            Second Amendment in context:
            ***”The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. They deserve a place of honor with all that is good. When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour.” – George Washington in address to the 2nd session of the United States Congress.
            ***“Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the PEOPLE’S (my bold) liberty’s teeth.” (George Washington)
            ***”The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.” Henry St. George Tucker, in Blackstone’s 1768 “Commentaries on the Laws of England.”, Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court & U.S. Dist. Court of Virginia

            ***”Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria
            Those who argue that the Second Amendment was written just for militias are completely blown out of the water by the following quote from Thomas Jefferson.
            “The strongest reason for “PEOPLE” (My emphasis) to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C. J. Boyd, Ed., 1950)
            James Madison is credited with the writing of the “Bill of Rights” and was pretty clear about the meaning on the Second Amendment.
            “The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the “PEOPLE” (My emphasis) with arms.”
            Beginning to understand now Kris?

      • paulrph1

        You see the people who own guns are rational people unlike yourself. We would never have come up this scenario that you so ludicrously want to employ. This proves again that you cannot fix stupid.

      • conservative

        I don’t think so!

      • http://www.itshallcometopass.org/ Ray – God Bless Israel.
      • http://www.itshallcometopass.org/ Ray – God Bless Israel.
    • 7papa7

      The mad Marxist is probably want to go after pressure cookers, nut, bolts, nails etc and require a background check to get any of these items. Their will be a 3 day waiting period before you can pick them up and you will need to show ID and proof of what you want these items for. Next he will go after anything you can hold in your hands.

      • http://www.itshallcometopass.org/ Ray – God Bless Israel.
        • 7papa7

          This will continue until we get a president and congress that loves America and the Constitution and put them before themselves. We need men and women who, like you, are willing to die to keep America great. IMHO all Muslims need to be deported or if they are American citizens have their movements restricted.

          • http://www.itshallcometopass.org/ Ray – God Bless Israel.

            “This will continue until we get a president and congress that loves America and the Constitution and put them before themselves.”

            I don’t have much hope of that happening.

          • 7papa7

            It will happen when the ambivalence on the right stops and we start getting some qualified candidates. When we keep getting the clowns we have been getting you are absolutely right. We are seeing a dim light at the end of the tunnel with senators like Cruz and Lee.

  • kds

    Now we are going to have anti-pressure cooker, anti-nail, anti-ball bearing laws put in effect. Why are Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood Al-Quada buddies taking credit and nothing being done to them? Stop all support to all Muslim countries since they harbor the guilty and we pay them to do so.

    • polmutant

      barry is a muslim and victor. what do you expect?

  • sgtshel

    Now is not the time to debate this issue!

    • $6286490

      Why not? Wanna see it happen again,eh.

      • sgtshel

        Your comment is not even worth a response!

  • Seeker1212

    The New Awakening
    With the horror of the Boston bombing we begin to realize what England suffered, and what the Israelites had to deal with every day of their life.
    This scenario is common place throughout the Middle East; hundreds of thousands of innocent victims lose their lives every year to senseless acts of terrorism by radical butchers for one cause or another.
    Unlike Israel that developed successful methods to deal with these senseless acts of terrorisms, we can expect our Brain-Dead lawmakers to implement more laws of ineffective security procedures that lack any success in preventing this from happening again.
    Our government and our national security agencies knew for years that cells of terrorist existed in this country and instead of preemptively dealing with the potential of this situation happening by training the public to be consciously aware of all suspicious acts that could possibly be disastrous, instead, they passed laws giving them more power over us.
    The only thing that the so called Patriot Act and the NDAA accomplished: was to strip us of our liberties and cause unnecessary inconvenience at the airports.
    Our first awakening was 9/11: and here we are just a little more than a decade later, and a new awakening of just how vulnerable we are to the same mass murders that are taking place in other parts of the world.
    With this new awakening comes the realization of how miserably our government has failed in protecting us from this type of tragedy because of their tyrannical focus of stripping us of more of our constitutional liberties.
    The fault of this tragedy lies with both houses of congress, and out clueless president.

    • BeautifulAmerica

      Agreed.

    • polmutant

      the terrorists camps are funded by the district of communists. washington is more anti american than tehran.

      • leviguy1947

        how long did it take you to think of the stupidest comment you could possibly make? Did you actually THINK about it?

        • polmutant

          it is not stupid, look up FBI registrar of the camps, it is not hidden knowledge. also keep in mind that china slowed lending to the district of communists. over the years 10′ of trillions of dollars had been paid in tribute or forgain aid to the allah lands, the reason that there are so many muslims running the district of communists is obvious. as china quit lending, a bankrupt washington went hat in hand to allah lands where the monies were given to borrow, under isalm/sharia law interest is forbidden. the interest to borrow back these given monies is to bow to sharia/islam. there are known camps in maryland and virgina. you should open your eyes. the writing is on the wall.

  • ounbbl

    With gun shots becoming silent, there will be bombs exploding. Good luck to those gun control freaks ;-<

    • BeautifulAmerica

      Bad suss to them all! (Olde Irish expression)

      • polmutant

        it has been along time since i have seen/heard a good sussing. i 2nd the opinion

        • BeautifulAmerica

          Ha, ha.

    • fearlesskris

      Please – share your intelligence upon whom you would have fired your weapons? Are we talking randomly into the panicked crowd? Because that always struck me as a stellar idea when we ran it up the flagpole after Aurora (crowded, dark, panicked theater goers in a stampede – someone else starts firing to “help”, police take the new shooter out after the shooter inadvertently murders the innocent). But a bombing – what genius it would be to have a firearm and start discharging it – or even brandishing it! That would be so helpful – you’d look like a big strong man with a little…well, erm gun…and we’d all have felt so much safer. Well done, well done.

      • polmutant

        you are out of touch with reality. however i do agree that GCA, NFA, and ATF should be repealled. because if there was no such nonsense alphabet soup, a disgruntled individual could use a rocket launcher to achieve the goal, without the collateral damage of garbage can bomb. these gun bomb laws are not to preserve the general public, rather they are to protect the politicians and such ilk.

        • fearlesskris

          And why, exactly are you against the National Fire Academy? Because they produce union first responders, aka fire fighters? And we need to expand ATF as part of our well-regulated militia. The agency needs strengthening now more than ever. The violent in this country are killing more and more and the easy access to weapons and ammo are directly related to this horrible increase in gun death and violence. Speaking of out of touch with reality – there is no gun, no weapon, no bullet who could have made you safer in the face of a bomb. Praying for a rocket launcher rather than a back pack bomb is true lunacy.

          • polmutant

            i see that you have no bearing on weaponry. i see that you cannot realize that if weaponry was instituted in 1st grade, by 6th grade the mentally ill would be sorted, and any lone gun man would be ineffectual. i also see that because you have no expertise you would not know a bomb if it were staring at you. nor could you consider that a society well educated in weaponry HAS NO NEED for 50 different regulatory bodies and 10,000rules on ownership/prodcution/sales. it would be beyond you to understand these concepts. so i make it easy; as a muslim terrorist {which they all are} would you make a design on a well equipped military unit, or a women and children? muslims always attack and hide behind women and children, have you not noticed this? mentally ill also attck women and children, have you not noticed this either? the answare is simple arm and train women and children, tell them why they receive this training, in 2 generations there would be no muslims or their punk ways, there would be no communist antigunners. and chances are high no one would want to be a drug addict either, as the effeminzing would be over, same for homo’s, and same for baby murdering or abortion.

          • leviguy1947

            you started out with a clear message and quickly dove into a deep pool of psychotic ramblings. would your ideal method of child-rearing possibly also rod us of children like you?

          • polmutant

            i hate writing/typing. this rambling is alot of dualism, if you know what it is. the message is clear but there are many that have eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear. call it parable, there is alot of info in it if one is able to discern, if not it is only jibberish.
            it is the difference between a person that can recieve a 1line request, and the second person needs 6chapters of explanation to understand/fulfill the goal. the bottom line of the writ is self preservation, responsiblity, neither of which is understandable to a liberal. because each of those words to a liberal would take volumes of books before they could understand the preperation that is required to be self preserving or responsible. self preserving/responsiblle people have NO NEED of government or law.

          • fearlesskris

            You see nothing – you are blind. And with that, I am certain you don’t see the irony of telling us we have no need for 50 different regulatory bodies and 10K rules – switch “regulatory bodies” with types of weapons and “rules” with magazines and drums of ammo… It appears you won’t be helped with the blindness of your religious bigotry and racism. You are calling for a genocide here and don’t even seem to know it. As a person who is called upon to do mental health evaluations I will tell you this – when we have the opportunity to make real determinations as to who is allowed to have weapons – because of course no one is coming to take all the guns you paranoid narcissist – you will be the first to lose your rights. Not due to any of the agencies but because you are a horror of a human being and just the sort who is likely to open fire on innocent lives.

          • Aristophanes

            fearful – I was wondering when you were going to pull racism and religion into this argument. You have no clue what any of us are thinking; but, I can give you a hint. If you think that your narcissistic president does not want to take all the guns, you are a fool. If seeing thinks for what they are makes me a religious bigot, racist, and paranoid narcissist, so be it. I would rather have my mind and eyes open to what the liberals are trying to do to this country than be a bigot and racist about people who have different ideas than yours. We are in big trouble if people with closed minds like you are in the mental health field. You are so judgmental about people who want to keep their Constitutional rights, and what is really pathetic, I bet all these paranoid narcissists on this site are much more compassionate and empathetic than you are. Why don’t you take your bigotted remarks somewhere where they would be appreciated? I am sure that obozo would love to hear from someone like you. You would totally feed his arrogant, racist, narcissistic, paranoid ego.

          • Aristophanes

            fearless – I think your name is an oxymoron. You sound like someone who is very fearful and feel like the more “agencies” the government has, the safer you will be. Boy, have you been brainwashed. No one has claimed that a gun would have been effective against a bomb (unless someone with a gun took out the bomber before he had a chance to use the bomb). You are defending a point that is defenseless. Your arguments are a joke. You do not understand what the liberals (or communists, the names are interchangeable) are trying to do and you never will. I am done trying to get through to someone whose brain is not in use.

          • polmutant

            NFA = National FireArms Act.
            GCA= Gun Control Act
            ATF= Alcohol Tobacco Arms

            I care less if firemen are armed or not armed. what difference does a fireman have when dealing with weapon control??

  • Robert Gunther

    It’s unfortunate our elected idiots have no common sense nor
    do the people whom back them.

    Boston is a travesty with very little or no opportunity for
    our elected idiots to impose stricter laws.

    They need to enforce the laws on the books and stop creating
    more to try enforcing.

    Again to those idiots, “Criminals do not obey Laws”

    Wake up people…

  • barry1817

    we need pressure pot control, and amazing more people harmed, and luckily not dead, and no gun used. So tell me again, don’t we have laws about killing people and maiming them. Did the person follow the laws? Please don’t make me laugh.

    Evil people do evil things, and laws that harm those that are law abiding do absolutely NOTHING to protect people from evil people, intent on doing evil.

  • barry1817

    What’s the problem, don’t we tell Israel to suck it up and not respond when this is a normal occurance, absent the bombs also landing, and they are surrounded by those that want them dead, But they are supposed to be nice.

    Sorry, look at the photos and imagine this is Israel and we tell them to be nice and negotiate.

    Sorry you don’t negotiate with those that want you dead.

    And please, can we stop the nonsense of Death Penalty for this person if captured, Isn’t the cruel and barbaric and we are supposed to be better than that, or does it not matter if the person does something horrendous on our soil.

    But if one has a slippery slope for death penalty that is barbaric and we shouldn’t do that. So why do the FAUX NEWS and their silly news reader revel in the idea of a death penalty for people that do this, when they will then turn around and say no death penalty.

    • $6286490

      So, let’s go to the DMZ Korea and prove your point.

      • barry1817

        Eagle2758 so if we want to prove my point that we don’t negotiate with those that want you dead, you assume that I would attack Korea. So tell me, if Korea is threatening nukes, do you wait for the first, or do you act preactively.

        Are you saying that if we took out the Korean leadership that the country and people wouldn’t be better?

        Or do you like the way that N. Koreans are basically enslaved, and are a land of so little, because the leaders suck the country dry?

      • polmutant

        remember when there was hoopla about the value of chinese currency and it is valued too low and dissapeared suddenly? it disappeared because china stated it would dump all USD, and was prepared to give up all east coast production cities, USA ran home tail between legs. if for 1minute you think china does not support N Korea, reconsider. USA is falling into a pit. the joint chiefs of staff do not even know/remember all enemies foreign or domestic. “super power” status is only nomeclure. remember Russia did fly by with 2 nuclear armed bombers over Guam. USAF was ineffective. Guam could have been a parking lot. today administration, congress, senate, scotus, and JCOS take their cues from Muslim brotherhood and china/russia. research dollar peg/petrodollar; you will learn that it is broken and fast fading away. USA could not win before in Korea, cannot win now. and before USA had men and women, today only a bunch of homosexuals, sodomites, and effeminates.

  • polmutant

    alert alert, lunatic mentally ill americans call a lying, thieving, baby murdering, homosexual promoting, antichrist, antiamerican muslim commie pink kenyan the commandturd in chief. quickly turn in your guns to eric so they can be distributed to illegal mexicans and islamists. remember barry and the district of communinsts loves you, it will be easier on you when numbered for the slaughter. please stay tuned, bomb laws do not work, gun laws do not work, but the communists are sure that banning marathons will work. bow before your masters and please no vasoline it has been deemed environmentally unfriendly. this is a public service message for your safety. and it only costs the tax payers 14million$, but do not worry we will devalue the dollar another 90% so you are getting a real bargan.

    • fearlesskris

      hayzues effing cristo – are you a real person? You sound crazier than the homeless preacher who stands on the corner of State St and maniacally raves through a bullhorn. God I hope you live alone.

      • polmutant

        i am your conscience, letting you know that your apathetical ambivaleny is the highway to hell. and your muslim cousins line the road. no i do not live alone. do you live alone??

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

    Could sure save a lot of money if we cut off all aid to countries that support islamist in any way.

    • polmutant

      what? fire barry and the district of communists?

  • EnemyoftheState

    Would it be churlish of me to remind the good people of Boston that when the IRA were dismembering and blinding and bereaving the good people of Northern Ireland and England, that a goodly amount of the money used to buy the Semtex used in the bombs was donated by the Irish community in Boston? Would it be fanciful to stress the word Karma? Whilst evil is evil, American must also put into perspective the fact that in Bagdad, bomings such as the one in Boston are common and frequently dismember mothers and sons and daughters. But it is all for democracy, don’t you know? And may I further suggest you read about the abomination of a bombing at Enniskillen in Ireland?

  • TPS12

    bo, must fly to Boston bring home injured for tv interview before he calls for a new bill on bomb control.

    • polmutant

      well there goes the saturday kapusta parties. and FEL permits are going to go up.

  • leewacker

    Apparently those bombs were first placed in pressure cookers, then set in the garbage cans! With our hysterical administration, does this mean that pressure cookers and garbage cans are going to be banned?

  • John Parker

    Rather than have all the Egg-Heads in D.C. who are not qualified to handle a grenade in a closet. Where is Dirty Harry when we need him?

  • sandy

    it is another hoax like sandy hook.

  • June Gagnon

    Nope, gun laws didn’t apply on Patriots’ Day; now the dimwits will try to ban pressure cookers, ball bearings and nails! I’m thinking it’s time to saddle up and play “Cowboys and Muslims” and someone suggested a “pig stampede”! Sounds like a plan to me!

  • jimpeel

    Fact: Violent crime follows gun control. Examples abound.

  • http://batman-news.com Cooleemee Edd

    In this particular case, it had nothing to do with gun control in the first place. It had to do with self-control, morality, ethics and common humanity. All were lacking. The person or persons who did this will be caught and punished.

  • Guest

    The old saying “all we have to fear is fear itself” is more prevalent now than ever. Between the media frenzy feeding reruns every minute and Sunday pundit talk shows, suspicions are mounting in this country. But those in the know/power seek out things other than looking for the real causes. With regard to Newtown and all the purported cameras “everywhere”, weren’t there any cameras in that school?

  • James Maxwell

    Wonder what type of “gun” this was a automatic “pressure cooker” gun maybe. On the serious side
    though no weapon was involved just an IED like the ones our troops face daily while overseas in a
    combat zone. While the politicos on the left are trying to disarm the American Citizens and prevent
    us from having weapons to protect our homes and families they are allowing millions of criminal illigal
    aliens to invade our nation across our borders without restain. They are “fast tracking” people from
    Sauid Arabia to enters the US supposedly to go to school here at the expense of educatign Americas
    to more us more competitive on the world stage. All very strange and makes you wonder what thier
    real adjenda is. They are also enspousing the UN – 21 tready which will allow the UN to dictate how
    and who will be allowed to own weapons in the United States in violation of the US Constitution. It seems as though our so caled “elected leaders” are doing all they can to destroy or enslave our nation by
    any means possible. This is unacceptabel but we have a massive amount of ignorant or uneducated
    voters who continue to vote for who will give them “freebies” rather than who will protect and perserve
    our rights and freedoms.

  • gambleallen

    Guess what no guns. Terrorists can put fear in our hearts in countless ways. what we need to remember is that most of them are cowards. Gun control will not stop tihs kind of thing from happening again.

  • paulrph1

    Gun laws. Bomb laws. None help.

  • Tom Leist

    Anti Bomb laws that’s the answer, all terrorists turn in your bomb making equipment, or else. There that will fix them.

  • giley1

    Ladies, and cooks, get ready to register your pressure cookers. Sadly, the animal that did the evil act those innocents knows that we are an open society and it is impossible to catch all of these terrorist or would be terrorist. On the issue of gun control, yes, when you advertise to evil doers that you do not have the capacity to stop them because you are not allowed to be armed vs the possibility that you may be armed, we know how the evil doer is going to act. We have the right to bear arms period. All of the gun laws in the world is not going to deter the criminal element. They are only going to make criminals out of law abiding gun owners because of the legal weapon that they may have legally owned for years are now declared illegal.

  • AppraisHer

    They have made Massachusetts a “gun free zone”. Open season for kooks.

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