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Texas AG to Obama: I’ll sue if U.N. Arms Treaty is ratified

Posted on: April 2nd, 2013

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott wrote a letter to President Obama on Tuesday saying that the state will head to court over the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty should Mr. Obama sign it and the U.S. Senate ratify it.
“The UN has concluded its negotiations on the Arms Trade Treaty,” Mr. Abbotwrites. “It is now up to you to sign it — or reject it. Do not sign this treaty.”

Mr. Abbott writes that he understands the apparent purpose is to combat illegal arms trafficking around the world, but that the treaty could draw law-abiding gun owners and gun operators “into a complex web of bureaucratic red tape created by a new department at the UN devoted to overseeing the treaty.”

“As with most so-called international-law documents promulgated by the UN, the draft treaty is not written using the precise, unambiguous language required of a good legal document,” he continues. “Instead, the treaty employs sweeping rhetoric and imprecise terminology that could be used by those who seek to undermine our liberties to impose any number of restrictions on the right of law-abiding Americans to keep and bear arms.”

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  • Watchdogman

    Well…One for our side! Obama feels like the teflon Don so he will barge ahead just like all other left nutwing laws his majesty is trying to implement.

  • omega2

    GOOD, all AG’S of all states have to do the same thing to let the OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT KNOW ALL 300 MILLION AMERICANS DONT WANT THIS SIGNED NOR WILL WE ABIDE BY IT AS THE U N DOES NOT SUPERCED THE CONSTITUTION OF THE U S A.

    • marcyharris92

      First comes licensing and registration. “A system of licensing and registration is a perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.” Vladimer Illiech Lenin

    • TexasOlTimer

      Hitler would be proud of Obama following his lead:

      “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police.” – Adolf Hitler 1933

      “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future.” – Adolf Hitler 1935

      • The Carpathian

        Your second Hitler quote has been proved as bogus. Sounds good, Makes our point. But it is just a fabrication. It appears in NO reputable authoritative source. Blogs and web pages that quote blogs are notauthoritative ources”
        But if you want to continue to believe it, I’ve just come up with another Hitler quote: ” Every time I see a beautiful sunset, I am humbled by the thought that there are mean people who still don’t believe in unicorns and the universal love that comes from equality among peoples.”
        — Adolf Hitler, 1942

    • the Carpathian

      WRONG!!!! According to the Constitution, any treaty, signed by the president and ratified by the Senate, amends and overrides previous tenets of the Constitution. In this case, even though the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of individual ownership and use of firearms, any way that the UN decides to stick it to us overrides the 2nd amendment. Period.
      The only way to argue this is to say that the Presiodent and Senators disregarded their oaths to defend the constitution. But I believe that will fail, for the court would have to recognize that international treaties are a means to amend the constitution in an entirely Constitutional manner.
      I just hope that the UN uses a condom when they tell the US citizens that the General Assembly is now in control of our government — Obama says so.

  • henryknox

    What possibly would keep the President from signing this treaty? This is exactly what he wants and a way around the negative liberties enumerated in the US Constitution. The sooner he can get rid of that pesky Constitution the sooner he can ‘Free’ this country from the shackles of individual liberty.

  • Rosie46

    I think I will move back to Texas.

    • marcyharris92

      And help with secession proceedings?

      • gregsmom

        I’m getting ready right now to move back west. And I’m already getting the Texas Secessionist emails. I’m with y’all. And I’m not afraid to stand up for freedom even if it results in my death. Nobody gave us any guarantees that we could remain free without any personal sacrifice. Anyone who isn’t willing to take the risk doesn’t belong here flapping their mouth unless they mean it.

        • TrueTexan327

          Amen!

        • TexasOlTimer

          I’m a 7th generation Texan and my ancestors fought for independence for Texas. I’m standing ready to do the same. If Texas will secede, I think we can take a number of the ‘fly-over’ states with us – as well as Alaska.

  • medivac

    Way to go, Greg !! We Texans stand by you on this !! Locked, cocked, and ready to rock !!

    • TexasOlTimer

      I’m with you 100%.

    • trupatriot1971

      Im read down here in Beaumont!

  • Fourth ID

    US out of the UN
    UN out of the US

    • marcyharris92

      I’ve said that for the longest time but well put! WE get nothing from the UN. Our Enemies are on the governing council. We pay the bills and get the guff. It gives spies a perfect quarter in which to hide their devious motives.

      • Sagebrush6

        I have said all along, Obama is but a puppet to another faction other than the USA. Who ?

    • gregsmom

      I used to think people were crazy who said that. Now I agree and think that, back then, I was just horribly uninformed. US out of the UN – I agree 100%.

  • OldDocBen

    TX and others need to be prepared for Obama pushing the UN treaty down your Senators throats; but most will swallow it willingly. This treaty places our sovernty in the hands of 192 member stares; most of which are dictatorships with virtually no civil rights. If this treat is ratified Americans will have two choices; become a revolutionary or a slave. Better get ready America as this could well be the end of our nation as the founders envisioned. What will YOU do?

    • marcyharris92

      This is what happens when we listen to much to the tea party and let them push the party so far to the right in moderate to left leaning states that we lose Senate seats. Harry Reid was toast in the polls against either of the “normal” Republican Candidates, then the Tea Party Express came to Vegas and proclaimed Sharon Angle “the only one pure enough.” Two huge mistakes were made. The people didn’t like her–she was probably the only person in NV at that time that couldn’t beat Harry Reid. Then her inane minister went around calling Mormons (Reid is one) a Cult when the Mormon community in Las Vegas (though only 7%) is very well respected and politically powerful. The stats that favored the others by 60/40 were reversed and Reid now holds the Senate hostage for years yet to come. Then there was Delaware. When this gun treaty is ratified we have only ourselves to blame for being politically stupid.

    • caskinner

      I don’t think Ted Cruz will vote for this and hopefully Cornyn won’t either.

  • silvernotes

    I believe that if President Obama signs this UN Treaty, under the Geneva
    convention, it will be considered law as along as Obama is president (think a
    presidential order). It will not matter if the Senate votes it down or not. This
    is serious and we all need to make as much noise as possible now, just like the
    AG of Texas is doing. The general population might not realize this (ignorance
    will be the death of our republic as we know it), but the second amendment
    guarantees US citizens arms…it is the glue that holds the rest of the
    amendments together, and ensures our God given rights. Without them, history
    shows that government will take away our rights as soon as people have no
    credible recourse. Please call you government representatives, get your friends
    involved, and speak out against these foreigners trying to collapse the great
    experiment, where people are supposed to govern themselves.

    • Ed

      Um, Being alleged President does not confer the power to violate our Constitution, and attempting to do so is TREASON! Rather than go along with this, we the people must hold him accountable, in the strictest sense of the word. Attention all froggies: the water’s definitely coming to the boil, y’all…

      • marcyharris92

        How? Y’all better be formulating a plan of action not just blustering words.

      • silvernotes

        Ed, legally it would not be treason. The US entered into the Geneva Coventions willingly. Our own Consitution holds treaties as good as consitutional law. If the UN agrees on a Small Arrms treaty and Obama signs it, he can obligate us to the treaty as long as he is President….without a Senate vote. Watch for the Blue Hats!!

    • Sky Soldier

      No So, read the Constitution.
      Article VI, paragraph 3 requires all Federal and State officers to also swear:”…to support this [U.S.] Constitution…”
      Article I, Section 10, paragraph 1 declares: “No State shall enter into any Treaty…”
      All civil magistrates are bound by oath to abide by the U.S. Constitution, and nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is any authority given for these United States to be subject to and bound by any earthly piece of paper that abrogates or is alien to the Constitution of the United States. As a matter of fact, Article VI, paragraph 2, the latter half of which is quoted at the outset above, in its first half, says only three (3) pronouncements are “the supreme Law of the Land”:

      • silvernotes

        Treaties have the weight of Consitutional law. Read the Geneva Convention.

        • dextermassolettisr

          Sorry Silvernotes::
          You can read the Geneva Convention and you can believe what you like — The US Constitution is not a suicide pact and common sense says Barako Bomber can sign anything he likes and we are not held as subjects to merely obey.
          That’s why the desire to press for gun confiscation ends with the tragic death of the grabber, getting muzzle first.

          • http://www.facebook.com/davidecasteel David E. Casteel

            There have been several declarations by the Supreme Court affirming that no treaty can supercede the rights and provisions of the Constitution as amended. So even should the Senate ratify the treaty (highly unlikely, given the 2014 election situation) no provision of it can act contrary to the Constitution.

        • Sky Soldier

          Apparently you forget that the U.S.A. is a sovereign nation and is not subject to any binding treaty created by a international organization.

  • http://www.facebook.com/terry.adams.7902 Terry Adams

    this is all part of obamas main plan. the states must not allow this fool to continue. where are the reps of this county and why are not the people screaming? its not just Texas that needs to be telling obama to sit on it. where are the voices of the other states? they are not all that liberal and we need to take this country back..

    • Nana

      They are threatened by family violence, etc. How else can you explain the fear??

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Jetter/100000287231037 Charles Jetter

      i just emailed our ag here in ohio and told him that if he wanted my
      vote he had better do as the texas ag is doing and sueing over the un
      arm treaty signing..

    • gregsmom

      Other states are doing things. I believe that Wyoming has passed a law that federal officials cannot enforce a law in Wyoming that is not covered by the Constitution. There are other ones as well. My current state won’t because of all the welfare slugs in Philly and Pittsburgh. They outvote people with functioning brains, but I’m headed back west myself. I won’t stay in a place where people who only take from the taxpayers and do nothing useful in their lives elect the officials. Bloomberg’s pouring money in here to strong arm his views into our lives. Too bad New Yorkers didn’t get rid of him a long time ago!

  • robertjr

    We need to get out of the UN and stop supporting an organisation where the majority of the countries hate us.

    • gdoggerz

      Besides this country is broke so why would we dump a ton of money into the UN?

  • http://www.facebook.com/ralph.collier.5 Ralph Collier

    Please read the following regarding the powers of the president and senate to make treaties and their effect on the citizens of our country……they cannot hold us accountable to requirements of a treaty that violates our rights under the US Constitution…….
    http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/treaty-making-powers-of-the-united-states/
    This web site is a wealth of information and should be read by every citizen of the United States.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ralph.collier.5 Ralph Collier

    You also might find the following analysis interesting regarding our rights under the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution; http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/all-federal-gun-laws-are-unconstitutional/
    Another lost cause for the liberals attempt to disarm and rule American citizens. We need someone with financial support to hire this lady to represent the people of the United States of America.

    • caskinner

      Thanks for posting this link. Excellent!!!!

  • mtmountainman

    Maybe we should let this go through. Little Barry and Eric Holder could be the first 2 prosecuted under their new one world govt. control for gun trafficking!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/james.somervell James Somervell

    Obama sadly does not thing he must follow the laws and Constitution and that wants this “therfore It must be so”.

  • TAM44

    barack hussein obama and the UN have something in common, there both are useless as teats on a boar hog and they both hate America.

  • The Old Man

    If the senate does not ratify it… it goes away

  • http://twitter.com/Jstarusa James Star

    “restrictions on the right of law-abiding Americans to keep and bear arms.” What do you think Obama wants to do? You cannot tell me that a man as smart as Obama is suppose to be, does not see this problem! Did he not take Constitutional Law in college? He knows exactly what is going on.

  • http://twitter.com/PublicIssues JPIT

    Tonight the world celebrates a new Arms Trade Treaty that will limit the proliferation of weapons in conflict zones and save lives. Against North Korea, Iran, Syria …. and Texas?

    • http://www.facebook.com/davidecasteel David E. Casteel

      Well, North Korea is already targeting Austin, Texas….

  • Mike

    You go ahead and sue, I’m putting a bullet in the first blue helmet I see in my neighborhood.

  • Joe Jack

    Many of us will fight against laws passed by U.N. dictators. And many of us will fight.

  • Zundfolge

    Sue? Hell if this thing passes Texas should use another “S” word; Secede.

  • bob novak

    I don’t give a sh…t what the UN does, or Owevomit for that matter, I will not give up my guns, I will continue to buy ammo out the yang and screw the socialist demoncrap senators that will sign on to this atrocity of a treaty.

  • lee

    we need to get out of the UN and get the UN out of the US! Period!

  • don

    Why is not congress starting impeachment proceedings well the answer to that is that congress is full of worthless Bast### will are so afraid of Barrack Obama they will not do the job they are being well paid for. This is why every one of these Bast### in congress need to be fired now not wait any longer get them the hell out of our Government. We the People had better start making sure we send the people to congress that will work for We the People and not build there personal wealth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rcosenza1 Robert Cosenza

    we the people,who are the real government.i call on wayne/nra/amac/john birch society/all militias/all freedom loving,god fearing american veternas/citizens,and donald thrump you stated ovomit/satan in revolution begin,no donald an evolution,of we the people.wayne/donald time to communicate/prepare/focus/plan/refine plan,its time to gather at the un,were the unamerician treasonous diplomats meet,and keep trying to enforce unconstitituional laws,on we the people,for which they have no right to dictate american policy to american citizens.donald/wayne theres no time left.the un building is a great start for a massive protest,to kick the diplomats,and the make believe ineligible treasonous musmutt traitor ovomit/satan,with his 535 lawless,useless,treasonous do nothing in ovomit/satan adminstration.wayne/donald for all we the people by me,you say when.god bless sheriff joe and cold case posse,dr oily taitz,chuck norris,frank serpico,and all legal american veternas/citizens.yea thou i walk in the valley of the shadow of death,i will fear no evil/ovomit/satan

  • Stealth

    if UN Troops EVER try to confiscate—they WILL go down!!

    • marcyharris92

      Again I say how? Someone would need to organize this or we will be like UK and eventually bend to the law and just hand over the guns as we receive the notice we must after they are all registered so they know where they are.

      • gregsmom

        We can’t organize on the internet. There are too many spies and turncoats. It has to be by word of mouth or snail mail, one patriot to another.

        • TexasOlTimer

          I agree with you on that!

      • TexasOlTimer

        I don’t think we’ll go down that same path here though – we’ve had too many centuries of freedom knowing what our rights are and I don’t think most will give them up easily – definitely not here in Texas!

        In Australia, the nice law-abiding citizens politely handed over their guns. How did that work out? They are seriously considering reversing that decision! Appears that this administration is continually trying to do what has been done by other countries and failed – they’re trying to find a way to reverse national health care in the UK as well. Guess they’re following the definition of insanity – trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result!

  • bayman61

    The United Nations need to leave and stop living off the tax payers money here in the United States. They are only here to live in the lap of luxury anyway. We do not need them here. Let them live off some other country for a few decades.

    • gregsmom

      Let’s move the UN headquarters to Angola!

  • marcyharris92

    We lost our good AG, Rob McKenna last election and now ours won’t be siding with anything against O.

  • http://twitter.com/r1944gmailcom ron

    i hope ever honest law abiding person gets active on this nut case in the WH

  • Shagnasty1

    Gregg Abbott, Ted Cruz, Ted Poe, John Culbertson, Kay Granger, etc. sure make me proud to have become a Texan.

    • TexasOlTimer

      Glad you’re here! We can use all the help we can get down here to offset those liberals that ruined their states and fled to Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio and now want to do the same here.

  • random gun nut

    Oh yeah. .. I’m sure the president of the United states is absolutely TERRIFIED of Greg Abbott, the radical attorney General of a wacky state… this suit will, justifiably so, be tossed out of court for lack of standing, of course ONLY after wasting tens of millions of taxpayer dollars on this attempt at publicity! And I Thought Republicans were against wasting tax dollars! Silly me!

  • David

    How can he think that a UN army can defeat an army 300 million strong?

  • Winston

    No, I say NO, international treaty supercedes the protections granted Americans under the U.S. Constitution. Every real American Governor, Attorneys General, Sheriffs, et al, must stand their ground and tell this illegitimate President that he can go to hell with his globalist socialist ideology. It appears Obama is hell bent on destroying American freedom and liberty but we will NOT allow this to happen… Where are the Members of Congress? Why are they sitting on their bu##s doing nothing when they could bring treason charges against IPO and Holder… and Hillary Clinton?

  • caskinner

    AG Greg Abbott is someone that will do what he says. Sure is refreshing.

  • Sky Soldier

    By Article II, Section 1, paragraph 7, the President is required to swear he will: “…preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
    Article VI, paragraph 3 requires all Federal and State officers to also swear:”…to support this [U.S.] Constitution…”
    Article I, Section 10, paragraph 1 declares: “No State shall enter into any Treaty…”
    All civil magistrates are bound by oath to abide by the U.S. Constitution, and nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is any authority given for these United States to be subject to and bound by any earthly piece of paper that abrogates or is alien to the Constitution of the United States. As a matter of fact, Article VI, paragraph 2, the latter half of which is quoted at the outset above, in its first half, says only three (3) pronouncements are “the supreme Law of the Land”:

    STAND YOUR GROUND!

  • TexasJester

    Hey, Washington: DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS!!

    • TrueTexan327

      Amen!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Jetter/100000287231037 Charles Jetter

    i just emailed our ag here in ohio and told him that if he wanted my vote he had better do as the texas ag is doing and sueing over the un arm treaty signing..

  • pduffy

    “Texas AG to Obama: I’ll sue if U.N. Arms Treaty is ratified”.

    And I’ll ignore it as a gun-owning citizen. My rights cannot be “treaty-ed” away by any man.

  • pduffy

    What good will “suing” do when the case would go before the black robe society and the “supreme court” that ruled Barry-care “constitutional”? A lawsuit is only good in a righteous court. The people must take matters into their own hands and keep their guns and not abide by this evil.

  • Tod

    The time of voting in order to maintain our liberty is over people.
    THE SOAP BOX IS DONE
    THE BALLOT BOX IS DONE
    THE AMMO BOX IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO MAINTAIN OUR SOVEREIGNTY AND LIBERTY.
    MAY GOD BE WITH US.

  • KDS

    Leave our guns alone. Or you may be facing one!

  • DEANS

    AMERICA IS WITH YOU, TEXAS! FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THE BALLS TO TELL O-DAMN-YOU WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE. LET THE REST OF AMERICA KNOW WHERE TO SEND MONEY TO HELP FUND YOUR EFFORTS BECAUSE, LIKE THE REST OF AMERICA, WE KNOW THAT THE SOCIALIST, MUSLIM SON-OF-A-BITCH IN THE WHITE HOUSE WE ARE SICK OF HIM AND HIS FAT-ASSED WIFE.

  • MarkEntry

    Wrong! The Marxists think, with this treaty, that they have already taken away our God given right, guaranteed by the US Constitution, to bear arms. On 22 May 1969 the Leftists in the US Congress had already laid the groundwork for this day with the Vienna Convention. They created that Act by which UN Treaties subjugate the US Constitution. An Act in itself that was unconstitiutonal, Now, all that has to happen for this UN Treaty to become US law is for the US President not to oppose it, which he won’t. Because, Obama is reveling in it’s adoption. And, as long as the US Senate is not allowed to bring the ratification up for a vote, which Harry Reid will never let happen. The Un Treaty becomes US Law by default. Now, what the h*ll are we going to do about our US Constitution only being, “An interesting document” (obsolete), as Obama called it? I, for one, am absolutely fed up with Marxists playing the race card when we oppose the man sitting in our White House, whoever he is.

  • TPS12

    It’s time for all AG’s to stand up and take a stance.

  • TruePatriot

    Sue if you wish, Many Americans will begin shooting if Congress does sign this treaty

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Tapp/100000133516239 Carl Tapp

    >>> YEEHAW <<< " DON 'T MESS WITH TEXAS ". NOTHING PASSED BY THE SUBVERSIVE GANG UNITED ' ARAB ' NATIONS IS BINDING ON AMERICAN CITIZENS . " GET THE U.S. OUT OF U.N. AND GET THE U.N. OUT OF U.S.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jerry.reames Jerry Reames

    good for the ag in texas

  • Sheileagh

    Finally? Someone whose willing & able to take action. Backing him 100%! It’s way past time to bring the illicit misfit to justice – American style!

  • http://twitter.com/JBKonya104 Joyce Foster-Konya

    THANK YOU TEXAS FOR STANDING UP TO OBAMA! I HOPE ALL THE OTHER STATES FOLLOW SUIT AND SUE. THE UN HAS NO RIGHT TO GET INVOLVED IN BUSINESS OF THE US! OBAMA AND THE SENATE SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH TREASON IF THEY SIGN THE TREATY.

  • colleenf

    I do not see the American people putting up with the UN nonsense on this or any other socialist/marxist agenda that obama wants. He will NOT win this fight!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Rister/100000737763279 Gary Rister

    time to start target practicing from long range distances what is a par 6 on hole no. 7 ? 400 yards ? just asking … my old shotgun might hit his balls as he T-EES off

  • futurelife

    This so called American by only his entitlement group and himself don’t care about what WE THE PEOPLE think, he believes he can murder, rape, steal and take God from us as Russia, China, Cuba and other nations have done to its people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1369149676 David F. Podesta

    Like everything else in Washington, it all depends on what the definition of “is” is. In other words, it’s all about how “they” will interpret it.

  • gdoggerz

    Like this administration cares about being sued. I think the next civil war is upon us.

  • Guest

    I really want out of U.S. out of the U.N. Our representatives to the U.N. and obama are working for the demise of the U.S. and its constitution.

  • MikeS

    I really want the U.S. out of the U.N. Our representatives there and obama are working for the demise of the U.S. and its constitution. Anyone that takes their agenda outside the country to get support for squashing opposition to that agenda within the country is anti-U.S. For that, obama should be impeached and hillary should be fired and jailed.

  • http://twitter.com/flyingtiger96 Glen Teel

    You would have to be some kind of stupid to think gun control would not help out the criminals. With no guns to protect our selves they could take anything they want including our lives.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lester-Peoples/1558461120 Lester Peoples

    Where are All the rest of our elected officials that should be standing behind AG. Greg Abbott? Are they shaking in their boots that if they dont follow this Muslim dictator [wanna be] they might lose their office? When are Americans going to stand up for what our troops and dead have fought so galliently for and realize that freedom isn’t free. Now foreigners also want your guns! Wake up America!

  • Lucky3511

    Thank God for Texas. They are the last of the free Americans. I just wish I could afford to head there, it will soon be the last place in the world where people can be free of government interferance

  • mickey

    IMPEACH this Fraudulent/Arrogant/Illegal/Muslim/Obama.

  • Aristophanes

    I like this attorney general!!! Hopefully, you will not be alone and more state attorney generals will sue along side you!!!

  • Gary Johnson

    EVERYONE that supports ANY GUN control MUST be EXECUTED for TREASON!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000936261501 Gary Chambers

    This administration can not be trusted and would like nothing better than assimilation with a new world order that would impose its world laws on the American people. Lowering our god given rights and living standards to match the European socialist trend of a government controlled culture and economical limits for individuals. Worst of all is use of world police to override the task of local law enforcement.

  • Sagebrush6

    Ineptocracy ( In-ep-toc-racy)

    A system of government where the least capable to lead are
    elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society
    least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and
    services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of
    producers.

  • marineh2ominer

    Double dittoes !

  • trupatriot1971

    I want obey any UN laws!

 

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