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Gun control groups turn focus to ‘riders’ backed by NRA

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Gun control groups turn focus to ‘riders’ backed by NRA

Gun-control advocates are hoping to reverse some of the political influence of the National Rifle Association and other gun rights proponents by urging the White House to strip the president’s next budget proposal of any provision that limits how federal agencies track firearms.

They are targeting one of the oldest tricks in the congressional playbook, a legislative sleight-of-hand that tucks little, sometimes random, changes to federal policy into massive “must pass” spending bills with the hope that they slip quietly under the radar and into law.

For years, the NRA and other gun rights groups have earned bipartisan support to amend spending bills with “riders” limiting how the Justice Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) keep track of firearms.



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  • bmwsid

    All these “riders” attached to bills that have NOTHING to do with a bill, should be illegal as anything I can think of!! It is crap that things get connected to something that SHOULD pass, slips through that way. It is like putting rabbit turds in chocolate chip cookies! BUT much more detrimental to our freedoms!

    • Tired of taking the blame


      them ain’t rabbit turds . . . . thems smart pills .. . . When you bite into one you get smart real fast.

  • Michael Williams

    Oboozo and his liberal/Communist will do whatever it takes to disarm “We the People” and to what end? The only reason to disarm the American People is Tyranny, plain and simple! When DHS purchases, NOW, 2 BILLION Rounds of HP Ammo, 2717 Tanks, 7,000 M16’s, 450 Million MRE’s and much more! And thats what we know about! You would have to be brain dead not to see what is coming…!!! Just a heads up, if you know history you would know that this is the same plan, down to the letter Hitler and Stalin used to disarm their people! But our education system does not teach our children real history! They know more about Michael Jackson than WWII and what got us into that mess. That’s why our Kids side with Oboozo and his Communist/Muslim buddies and not with the Founding Fathers…!!! It makes me sick!

    • JOHN T. FOX


      • TWG2A

        Now I know how people felt in 1930’s Germany….

      • george

        But do you know how they felt in 1750?

    • TexasJester

      “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police.”
      – Adolf Hitler 1933

      “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future”………Adolph Hitler 1935

      “A Nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious, but it can not survive TREASON FROM WITHIN… An enemy at the gates is less formidable for he is known and he carries his banners openly, but the traitor moves among those within the gate freely. His sly whispers rustling thru all the galleries, heard in every hall of government itself. For the traitor appears, not as a traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims and he wears their face and their garments. He appeals to the BASENESS that lies in the heart of all men. He rots the soul of a Nation. He works secretly and unknown in the night, to undermine the pillars of the city. He INFECTS THE BODY POLITIC, so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. ”
      – Cicero 42 B.C.

      • Nancy DeVisser

        WELL SAID

    • $681255

      Just in….the Feinstein gun grab bill is dead in the senate! Know what that means? They caved. And we are STILL armed! In fact, because of all the gun hysteria, Americans are more armed now than ever before in our history. So for now, we won big. And any notion to declare martial law, would be nothing short of suicide. Just as mentioned in the above reply, every cop in uniform will be targets. Let’s do the math. How many cops do you really believe would be stupid enough to shoot anyone?

      • Doc

        Sorry but it is not dead! Feinstein has already said she, and her fellow socialist/Marxist in congress will simply “amend” any gun control legislation with not only her assault weapon ban but with Schumers “universal” BG check (read:gun registration/confiscation) and other onerous amendments. Do NOT be lulled into a false sense of victory. The gun banners will not rest until they win or they start a civil war. I vote for the latter.

        • $681255

          Harry Reid has just confirmed that this amendment won’t pass either. Too little support from the dems.

      • Black Rain

        We have to so on guard for Feinsteinass says she not giving up. May try an amendment attach to another floor bill.

    • george

      Makes a lot of us older citizens sick. All I can say is prepare, but I don’t know how to tell you to do it, you are on your own there.

    • Nancy DeVisser

      ME TOO

  • Steve

    I would hate to be one of the first few federal officials to come to get the guns.

    • TWG2A

      The UN troops will be the one’s hitting the porches.

      • MontieR

        Then they will be the ones laying at the morgue.

      • Tired of taking the blame

        In spite of what the owebum might say the UN troops have NO AUTHORITY in the continental US.

        • nitzucow

          If he declares marshall law, it could happen.

          • gwinf

            Then the war will begin in earnest.

          • Richard L. Misner

            I also agree with you and I am willing and able!!

          • aeronca7acnc85057

            me to but I am also old

          • NOBODY

            I am 80 and I would be their worst nightmare. NO FEAR.


          • aeronca7acnc85057

            From one old timer to another, Sorry I did not mean to tred on your corns

          • Rattlerjake

            Declaring marshall law will in effect be declaring civil war and it will escalate faster than Obuthead and his little fed army will be able to control. Marshall law will in effect mean that ANYONE in a uniform on the streets of this country will be shot.

          • Richard L. Misner

            I agree with you and that would be the time the military and law enforcement to pick sides the ones that do not stand on the side of the American people and the constitution would be fair game!!

        • Richard L. Misner

          I agree with you!

      • truthbeknown

        by un regs. the united states is off limits to un troops. if they come on our shores they are considered invaders and can be shot as such. so target pratice would be on.

        • Ray Ake

          you already have 3000 Russian troop’s here in Co.,,BO stated that they are here for cross training…put thing’s togather,,DHS~look at what it is buying up..

          • NOBODY


      • gwinf

        Blue makes an interesting target.

      • Ron

        That’s called invasion and an act of WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Phil Bronner

        Yeah…right before they hit the ground…

      • Cougar Smith

        Blue helmets would make great targets. If you think Bahgdad and Fallujah were bad, just try all of the USA!

      • USAgent

        You mean the Ground in front of my porch!

      • 2War Abn Vet

        Why should the Chosen One call on the UN? He is building his private army within the TSA, and can call on the SEIU “purple shirts”.

      • Richard L. Misner

        Then they will be the first one’s to hit the ground! Any UN person trying to enforce laws on Americans should be considered the enemy and at war with America. No American citizen should back the UN on America soil!

    • jong

      I would hate to be one of the Demoncrats that had to go home when Congress was out of session.

      • Richard L. Misner

        The liberals and demoidiots should find some place to hide! if it would come to battle the cowards!

    • KDS

      Dead man walking!

    • Sinatra98

      That sounds cool to me, let them come !!

      • george

        What would you wager that they are not already here? Hint, don’t spend too big on it.

    • Douglas W. Rodrigues

      I agree. I’ll die but I’ll take at least one such government enforcer with me…hopefully more than one. Of course I’m an old guy who has lived my life, and so I have more to gain than a younger enforcer has to lose. I will feel sorry for his family though.

  • Watchdogman

    While we still have guns, we should march on DC

  • TWG2A

    Well then…. WHEN the DIMS try to sneak their AWB fantasy into a future bill as a “rider” (You know they will), then what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • The Old Man

    We The People are getting smarter to the sneaky tricks that POLITITIONS play

  • Scooter Orsburn

    We All have to make our respective congressmen/women understand , that if they allow anti 2nd amendment “riders” to “slip” thru on must pass bills , thier reward WILL be the same at election time as tho they had outright voted for gun control !

    • T.J.

      No one seems to be caring about any elections. Not enough Patriots(if there even are any)are standing up in washington d.c.

  • Dan

    If the aJews had not registered/surrendered their weapons, it might have been more difficult for Hitler to have ruled with an iron hand. Wake up Americans, it can/is happening right before your complacent eyes! For the sake of our children………………..

    • gwinf

      For the sake of the children…do not comply!

  • truthbeknown

    again the only thing we can do is get rid of the jerks in washington. one way or another it must happen and happen soon.

    • Doc

      great idea but have you noticed? Our current crop of fat, lazy, and entitled “Americans” continue to reelect people who want to destroy the Constitution? And all so they fpget their share of federal freebies; free food, phones, birth control, and health care. These sheeple are so selfish they are willing to give up their liberty for the idea of freedom. They deserve neither liberty or death but the slow agonizing life of slaves.


    I would not put anything past the leftist democrats. Slipping an assault weapons ban in a huge bill that the senate has only a few hours to read before they try to push it through. Sen Rand Paul talked about on the evening news just a few weeks ago about getting a bill over 500 pages and they had less than 24 hours to review it before voting on it.

    • gwinf

      They will pass the UN Arms treaty since they are in control of the Senate and Obama will sign it. If we allow this to happen then they will have the neccesity to build the registration database that will be the step they need to initiate confiscation.

      God I hate thinking of those possibilities. Call your representatives and Senators. Tell them to support the resolutionns currently circulating to stop this madness. Pass it on to all you know…

      • Rattlerjake

        Time for calling representatives is long past. You better spend your time preparing for the inevitable.

    • gutterfalcon

      I don’t pretend to understand everything, But when they do that, giving large bills with No time to read them, why don’t they just vote against them ? I think after a few times they would figure out, if we truly want this passed, I guess we have to give time to read.

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  • Ron

    Stop these bastards now!! Don’t quit, don’t give up your guns no matter what they pass!!! 172,500 kids were killed in car crashes in 2010{i saw it on abc}why are we not banning cars yet? Please! get off my guns!

  • 1waco64

    UN troop are never armed, are they??

    • JamesD71

      If they’re French, they are well dressed (hero suits) and run around in plated dune buggies.

      • Tom Walter

        I heard they carry a white hanky in their back pocket, just in case.

    • Doc

      Yes, they can be armed. And if they are coming here to confiscate our guns do you think they will force us to surrender our private property with harsh language? They will come from one of the 192 nations (mostly Muslim) that hate us and they will come prepared to destroy us in a jealous rage. If you see a blue helmet and don’t shoot it then you are a traitor and will be shot next.

  • GATOR007

    NO BILL THAT THREATENS ANY 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHT IS A “MUST PASS” PERIOD!! We can live without before we give into their tricks!

  • Phil Bronner

    There are two laws…one passed in the in the 30s or 40s and the other one later…that preclude the federal gubmint from any registration of firearms…..

  • foxxybey

    I’m with Steve but disagree with TWG2A, the DHS and IRS will be the civilian army and then joined by state patrol officers and sheriffs after Obozo puts them under federal control with a EO.

  • Constitution101

    Federal government: we ain’t Hitler’s Germany. You may get some of us but the rest will clean your clock and impeach the lot of you.

    • Nancy DeVisser


  • $681255

    If Obama did call for martial law in America, with the absence of a national emergency, even if he created a false crisis, this singular act of treason would seal his fate. Besides, how many cops do you really think would be willing to die for Obama’s tyranny? I truly believe even the liberal butt kissers would begin seeing the realization of Obama’s insanity, and would all begin jumping ship like rats. And it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Obama’s own S.S. jumped ship as well.

    • $5708171

      I’m not so sure that local people will stand up to the big blue Fed Machine. In the absence of a huge, electrifying and unifying event, people are generally pretty cowardly. It’s known as the Levine Effect – witnessing a crime unfold and doing nothing to stop it – even when doing so would have been relatively simple at the time. A similar situation occurred in Nazi Germany – people turned in friends and family in order to gain favor with the perceived power figure or to avoid prosecution themselves. We like to think that “this is America” and nobody takes our guns, however, history does not support that idea. Believe me, I want to believe that we will stand firm, and I hope we do!

  • Doc

    Actually your local PD will be the first to bear the brunt of citizen outrage as they will be the first to go about confiscating guns. They have their list of CCW (concealed carry permits) holders in their respective areas so those will be the first targeted. Next, incidental searches will confiscate more. Soon the 4th Amendment will be cast aside as well and police will use any excuse to search and seize. Larger cities will use their SWAT teams to terrorize their citizens and set “examples” so the rest of us will be too afraid to fight back. If you do not believe this then, please, by all means stick your head back in the sand. If, however you feel this might be possible you must start preparing NOW! Sure hope you bought your ammo the day after Obama was elected the first time; like I did.

  • ron44

    Seems to me they cant find any thing to cast their way so they create them, Lunatic left is running out of ideas.

  • Truetexan327

    All I can say is: Of all the countries that have been disarmed in world history, I think America will be different. We out number them and many of them are really us. They just can’t say it. If it happens it will be very ugly. We won a short victory today with DF getting shut down. Don’t let your guard down, their just buying time. It is apparent more americans support self protection than even we thought. Keep spreading the patriot word.

  • Ranchman

    We must ALL remain vigilant in securing our firearms freedom. We must NEVER allow anything to slip by unnoticed. We would do so at our own peril and that of our children. They deserve the freedom we had growing up and it is something I would gladly lay down my life to provide them with. Lives, fortunes and sacred honor, right brothers & sisters?

  • aeronca7acnc85057

    It is easy to say I will die before I give up my guns,

    • Tom Walter

      MOLON LABE III% See You On The Battlefield Brother.

  • aeronca7acnc85057

    It is easy to say I will die before I give up my guns, but many will find an excuse, and some excuses may be rational. If a dozen men in body armor show up with full automatic weapons and you refuse, you die, and they take them. We now have one less fighting man, and can you imagan the propaganda value to the government. Think of the headlines “Deranged man shot and killed by police when he attracked them on his front pourch. He pulled a AK-47 and fired at police officers when they ask if he heard any gunshots last night.”

  • oldguy199

    S82- Has anyone heard of this bill? To outlaw all gun laws? If so Please give links and all info

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