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Who Defines “Assault” and “Crazy” ???

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Who Defines “Assault” and “Crazy” ???

Senate Dems Push Assault Weapons Ban… Senate Republicans Push Crazy People Ban… Who Gets to Define “Assault”.. and “Crazy”??
Do you really want the federal government, (which has proven to be a colossal failure at every thing it handles) deciding which guns “look” okay for you to own and which citizens in this country have the proper mental capacity to own them?

As Senate Democrats push ahead with a proposed ban on assault weapons and other gun-control legislation, Republicans are still trying to draw attention to what they see as the bigger issue — keeping the mentally ill from owning firearms.

A proposal on the issue was introduced this month by South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who on Thursday again expressed his interest in getting the measure passed.

“I believe that the best way to interrupt the shooter is to have a mental health system that actually records and enters into the database people who should not be able to buy a gun,” Graham said.

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  • fliteking

    “Who Defines “Assault” and “Crazy”

    The liberals do, and the meaning changes as the need arises.

    • TexasOlTimer

      They change the language and definitions as THEY see fit for the ends of their agenda – that is to control all the people. Anyone that is an average everyday patriotic American – or once was considered so – is now on the DHS list of ‘domestic terrorist.’ Therefore, anyone that isn’t a bona fide liberal who hates guns will be considered mentally ill and not allowed to own a gun. If that definition doesn’t work for them, they’ll simply add to it or alter it.

    • Sarg

      W#ho knows more about being Crazy then a Dem???

      • fliteking

        Bingo

  • foxxybey

    Just like the Hitler SS, they the controllers get to decide and darn to the people who disagree, those on the Nazi plantation of all races and colors have become the god of many.

  • Seeker1212

    Who does define crazy, and what protection will be put in place for an Individual to defend their sanity. This is a slippery slope..!!
    It was because of the gross abuses to past laws concerning sanity that caused these laws to be overturned. Corrupt lawyers and judges committed sane people to institutions out of greed for property and money, only to have these people abused and mistreated.

  • colsooonscoorner

    The government has a bad record on definitions. Don
    t trust them with anything!

  • AmericanIcon

    Mr. Webster did an adequate job of defining ‘assault’ – as an ACTION, not an object. If I hit you, I have ‘assaulted’ you. If I pick up a brick and hit you with it, I have ‘assaulted’ you with a ‘weapon’ – ergo, any generalized discussion of ‘assault weapons’ must include those heinous ‘assault bricks’…which are, without human intervention, as harmless as ‘evil-looking black’ rifles. One wonders, is it the ‘rifle’ part socialist/communist/statist/liberals hate, or the fact that they’re BLACK?

    • Steven

      You beat me to my comment. Assault is a VERB, not an adjective. Coffee can be used as a weapon in an assault. A fully automatic, belt fed weapon is NOT an ‘assault weapon’ until it is used to commit assault. It can just as easily be used in a purely defensive manner.

    • TexasJester

      An “assault weapon ” is any implement, device, or appendage that can be used by one individual to assault another. Bricks, knives, candlesticks, guns, fists, feet, teeth, head(butt), etc.

      The military defines “assault rifle” as a weapon (rifle) with a selector that can select full-automatic fire (multiple rounds fired with a single trigger pull, and will continue to fire as long as the trigger is pulled and ammunition is fed into the chamber) and semi-automatic (one round per trigger pull).

      The popular AR-15 is not, nor can it ever be, an “assault rifle”. Is has cosmetic appliances that make it LOOK like a military assault rifle – but its innards are that of a sporting or hunting semi-automatic rifle. The “AR” designation is the first two letters of the company that introduced it to the market, NOT “assault rifle”.

      Most bricks are red – that’s as racist against the (American) Indians as the black rifles are to the black people! And wooden clubs – brown – racist against East Indians? If you used something painted yellow – would that be racist against Asians?? I know this line of thought is past ridiculous, but I can honestly see the liberal progressive politically correct socialists saying this….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

    According to the liberals I am crazy . I am a combat vet. Of course my definition is a little bit different in that at least I wait until they open their mouths to prove it.

  • Idadho

    The bill needs to defer to the states to define mentally unfit. Any attempt to create a federal definition of mentally unfit will be a move to federal control of mental health services. We are already too close to that risk with Obamacare. Federal control of mental health has historically been a way to control the masses. Already, liberals are claiming gun owners are mentally unbalanced.

  • GDC97

    After studying Psychology for over 50 years I have found that at lease 99% of ALL Mental health professionals ARE IGNORANT, STUPID, ILLITERATE, ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL, UNSCIENTIFIC, INCOMPETENT, NEGLIGENT, and MENTALLY SICK, DELUSIONAL, PSYCHOTIC!!! That IS a FACT and I have VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE to support it.

    The DSM, regardless of the version, is proof in itself. When the APA took HOMOSEXUALITY out of the DSM as a disorder they did so WITHOUT ANY evidence of any kind EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE that it was anything but a disorder. They also did it with a minority of its members approval. Then they and their families had been THREATEN by homosexuals. The PEDOPHILE Mental Health Professionals ARE doing the same thing to have PEDOPHILIA removed as a disorder.

    • Douglas W. Rodrigues

      I agree. I worked in a mental institution many decades ago and that’s basically what I thought about the “experts.” Everyone of the experts had their own pet theory about “treatment,” which usually amounted to “milieu therapy,” which seemed to be totally worthless. Milieu therapy worked for people who probably didn’t need it, and didn’t work for the really crazy people who were beyond help. Milieu therapy was more of an excuse for a “client” to put the world on hold and relax. they could have done that by taking a vacation.

  • liliq

    According to Dianne Feinstein and Big O, anyone who actually wants a firearm is crazy and an assault weapon is anything that actually shoots bullets.

    • TexasJester

      I guess that would include Freakenstein? She has a conceal-carry permit, and handguns! In fact, one of her first acts as mayor of “Gay Bay” (as we call it on the cb) was to rescind ALL CC licenses – except hers!

      And according to Botox Freakenstein, ALL returning combat vets have PTSD and – even though their job is to use firearms every day – should not be allowed to own guns in this country. I guess she knows that when push comes to shove, those combat vets who know how to use firearms effectively, might use them against a tyrannical government – HER government???

      • ConservativeGrl

        lol. I do find it comical that she has a CCW and feels she is safe to have one, just not anyone else. If we’re lucky she’ll croak on the stand and some of this gun grabber mentality may fade…

  • TexasJester

    I’m curious just how limiting mentally ill people from legally getting firearms is going to stop the shootings in this country.. Let’s look at a few statistics, shall we?

    Number of people killed in mass shootings in the United States in 2012: 33 (according to a Breightbart report) – and 26 were killed by one individual that ILLEGALLY obtained the firearms he used (Sandy Hook).
    Number of people killed in Chicago in 2012 by using illegally obtained firearms: over 500. (January 2013 alone had around 50 murders.)

    Note the Aurora shooting, the Sandy Hook shooting, and the Chicago murders all took place in designated “gun-free zones” (yes, Chicago is one big “gun-free zone “!). Kennesaw, GA, passed a law several years ago that every household shall have a firearm, and the residents trained in the use of said firearms – and their crime rate is almost ZERO. Switzerland has a law that every able-bodied male do 2 years military service, and then is in the Reserves until they’re 40. Every household has true military weaponry – and their murder rate is all but ZERO – I think they had ONE firearm- related murder in 2009, and it’s the only one in a decade or 2..

    It’s obvious that the only way to prevent gun crimes is to arm the citizenry. Allow carry (open or concealed) in more places – eliminate “gun-free zones” altogether. The Aurora shooter researched – cased – several theaters to find one marked “gun-free zone”. Ever hear of a gun store (or gun show) being successfully robbed? Doesn’t happen – the clerks (and many/most of the customers) are packing!

  • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/1252355351/ Adrian Vance

    Ah you have found the key: Look any old dictionary to see the definition of the word “militia” if you do not think there is a conspiracy to take our Constitution from us.

    See The Two Minute Conservative at: http://tinyurl.com/7jgh7wv and when you speak ladies will swoon and liberal gentlemen will weep.

  • GDC97

    After studying Psychology for over 50 years I have found that at lease 99% of ALL Mental health professionals ARE IGNORANT, STUPID, ILLITERATE, ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL, UNSCIENTIFIC, INCOMPETENT, NEGLIGENT, and MENTALLY SICK, DELUSIONAL, PSYCHOTIC!!! That IS a FACT and I have VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE to support it.

    The DSM, regardless of the version, is proof in itself. When the APA took HOMOSEXUALITY out of the DSM as a disorder they did so WITHOUT ANY evidence of any kind EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE that it was anything but a disorder. They also did it with a minority of its members approval. Then they and their families had been THREATEN by homosexuals. The PEDOPHILE Mental Health Professionals ARE doing the same thing to have PEDOPHILIA removed as a disorder.

  • wildeagleone

    Why doesn’t someone in the weapons industry take all the trappings off the AR-15 and demonstrate to the idoiots that it is nothing more than a semi auto rifle not an assault weapon.

  • Douglas W. Rodrigues

    Janet Napolitano defines “assault weapon” as a semi-auto AR-15, and a “defensive weapon” as a fully auto M-16, the ones she just ordered for DHS. . We have the assault weapons, and she has the defensive weapons. That makes sense only to an idiot.

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