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Check Out the Hidden Gun Transfer Junk in Schumer’s Gun Bill

Posted on: March 13th, 2013

Shumer had kept the bogus “background check” bill under wraps, only putting forth a shell bill with no specifics. Well, he applied the text through an amendment at the last minute, before it passed. John Richardson has the details, including the text. I’ve only skimmed the details, but here’s the key problems:

If you left town for more than 7 days, and left your gay partner, or unrelated roommate at home with the guns, you’d be committing a felony. This should be called the “denying gun rights to gays act.” Remember that the federal government does not recognize gay marriage, even if you’re state does, thanks to DOMA. 5 years in prison.
Actually, even married couples are questionably legal, because the exemption between family only applies to gifts, not to temporary transfers. The 7 day implication is if you leave your spouse at home for more than 7 days, it’s an unlawful transfer, and you’re a 5 year felon. I suppose you could gift them to your spouse, or related co-habitant, and then have them gift them back when you arrive back home. Maybe the Attorney General will decide to create a form for that.
It would be illegal to lend a gun to a friend to take shooting. That would be a transfer. 5 years in federal prison.
Steals the livelihood of gun dealers by setting a fixed fee to conduct transfers. The fee is fixed by the Attorney General. What’s to prevent him from setting it at $1000?

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  • fliteking

    Any member of the House or Senate who values the Constitution would not even consider a Bill tabled by Schumer.

    Look for the supporters of this bill, it will ferret out the non-constitutionalists in the crowd.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

      Very true. This piece of garbage also wants when you die for all your property to go right to the government. From start to end a marxist.

      • oldguy199

        Start a list of your local,regional traitors–post for all to see–pictures,addresses, all pertinent info so they can be punished==== the penalty for TREASON is DEATH

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

          But we must have a trial to get it all out first. Then we hang them or worse. Some of them deserve vivisection.

          • oldguy199

            Trial should take 15 min (with coffee break) “did you attempt to INFRINGE ON RIGHTS ? YES?NO?” Proceed to execution

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

            What just lope off their heads??? I am sorry I really think it should last a bit longer. Come on just a little water boarding????(LOL)

          • oldguy199

            Water-boarding for starters, then get barbaric. Count val Dracula, Genghis Kan, the ancient Romans,Greeks Egyptians, etc all had excellent methods–experiment around and see what works-try new methods ENJOY the moment

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            Wrong question my Friend.

            “Did you vote in favor of Bill #(whichever)?”

            “Yes” is an admission of guilt. Immediate Death Penalty.

            If it was a voice vote, with no roll call, then “Can you Prove you voted against it?” if “No”

            “Well I guess you should have demanded a roll call vote.”

            Guilty, Immediate Death Penalty.

            I much prefer public hanging….

            We can even televise it world wide as a message “Don’t try this again.”

          • oldguy199

            We are all in favor of the same outcome, see above and spread the word
            In addition to “don’t try this again” add ‘YOU DO THIS=WE DO THIS”

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            They do not believe that they are ‘infringing’ on a Right because, to them, you have no rights that they can’t deny.

            Televise the trial, televise the hanging…

            Like you said, 15 minutes (including coffee breaks)

        • Brian Evans

          Yes it is but by god work them to death. Do not make it so easy to get out of what they have done to our country. Make them clean ditches, road gangs and such first. Work them hard enough and they will die someday. They may even pray for death first. Oppps wait a minute they don’t believe in God now do they?

          • oldguy199

            WRONG-execute them
            The FOOLS-you know-the PARASITES, the do nothing LEECHES that put them in power are the ones you want in chains with your PLAN. The bodies of their CULT leaders should be swinging above them as they WORK for the first time in their useless lives.
            PUNISHMENT MUST FIT THE CRIME

  • foxxybey

    Any law by the nazi left to put you in their Fema Camps. Illegal bullets by DHS, people control, hitler has risen and is living in Schumer and the left wing brown shirts with their chief in the White House, these people are so full of demons they can’t even think anymore. satan is alive and well in America.

    • Bigolfascist

      It’s not just demons they are full of. But, really, who is going to stop them? It’s a one party system now, and most of us are sheep. Those that actively resist as did our forefathers, will be labeled as criminals and “Weavered”. The rest of us will comply. It has been working gradually since 1934. They really have no obstacles. Thus the POTUS’s policy initiative: “We Can’t Wait”. Rule by decree. He does it; we do nothing. You think the SCOTUS is going to uphold the Constitution?

      Gonna be a lot of new pictures hanging in the Post Office.

      • foxxybey

        Strong and true friend so what is your answer? Lay down and comply? Go to the Fema Camps and hope? Sometimes the tree of freedom needs to be watered by blood, so does the tree live or die? Give me liberty or give me death? Live Free or die? which one are you willing to do? I don’t start fights, don’t really like fights but, if attacked won’t throw up my hands and ask for mercy. Does that mean I will fight my government? No, it means I hope my government won’t attack me and if they do, I’ll protect myself but, I won’t go after them but they have to know my God given rights and if that is a danger to them, then they are satanist who hate my God and myself and He gives me what I need when I need it and have walked away from many battles a winner and will from this one also, mark Gods Words and live free:

        • Bigolfascist

          Guess my picture will be hanging in the Post Office. Just wish we could get as well-organized as they are. I’ll be 65 this summer. Got nowhere to go, and too set in my ways to do contrary to what I had always been taught were the natural rights of Americans, not what men “grant” me as rights.

          • Rattlerjake

            It’s never too late. Contact a militia in your local area. Establish a response plan – when the feds/cops show up, call your contacts, they respond and surround the feds/cops. Athens,Tennessee was an example of We the People taking back control.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            You do realize that they have cell phone blockers don’t you?

          • foxxybey

            Mine and yours friend, I’m 70 years old and to old to fight and to dumb to run but, come for me and I won’t go alone unless they use a drone and I don’t see it coming? I agree with you friend, any rights man gives can and will be taken away. I’m not to worried I still shoot like I did in the Marine Corps and will take some with me but in different directions, I’ll be on my way to heaven and them to a really hot climate. Hope we get to meet again in my place which Jesus prepared for me by His blood, God Bless us old guys who can still see and shoot.

  • Docs357

    Vote them out if office Problem solved.

    • James Brown

      Not enough want that, remember the free cell phones?

      • http://twitter.com/Jstarusa James Star

        Also invalid voting comes to mind! Until we get that cleared up, we have no leverage at all.

    • faithandhonor

      Problem is..we may never have another election, and if we do, the voting machines are all rigged.

      • oldguy199

        Do some undercover work at your local Prog/lib/dum center and take them down with video-cockroaches don;t like the light of truth

    • Rattlerjake

      Voting machines are compromised, so voting will do nothing until we go back to paper ballots.

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.sigman Phil Sigman

    So if you’re a deployed soldier or even an over the road trucker who gets home maybe 2 days a month, you will be an automatic felon. Sounds legit (sarcasm).

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.sigman Phil Sigman

    So if you’re a deployed military member or even a long haul trucker who might get home 2 or 3 days a month, this will make you a felon.

    • oldguy199

      Shummer wants us to play with a STACKED deck-read the whole bill on the Senate sites-this is only 1 of many tricks
      Also keep your eye on the UN Treaty Clinton, Rice, OBUMMER are trying to sneak through

  • CrustyOldGeezer

    Since they have openly declared war on the Constitution, they have made themselves enemies of the State.

    Interesting hole they have dug for themselves is it not?

    • Rattlerjake

      Let the war begin!

  • pointdan

    Republicans in the House of Representatives : we are counting on you to destroy Schumer’s work when it gets to you. Mr Schumer is the personification of evil.

  • James Brown

    Increasingly clear that there ware no adults in the DC crowd. All the “smoke and mirrors” is a search for another TAX loophole.

  • DEANS

    SC**W CHUCK SHUMER!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/samson.firestarter Samson Firestarter

      His Intern Does That, Thank You

  • ginger

    To what depths the Congress has fallen to even think of nonsense such as this, much less present it as a bill to be voted on!!! absolutely incredible.!!!

    • oldguy199

      have you called your congressman today? Senator? prez? Gov? Mayor?

  • franko35758

    Schubert swore to UPHOLD THE constitution of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHERS.
    this is by no means UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
    THE MAN AND ALL OTHERS, “WE THE PEOPLE” should be demanding they step down.
    old sarge,’nam vet,’68,’70
    lrrp/abn

    • oldguy199

      Look up Conspiricy Against Rights Act Title18 USC section 241-242
      Go to your local Fed Court and file charges- follow up—Call your reps (local/state/fed) and hold their feet to the fire, you must keep the heat on high–get all your friends, enemies, family to help. Bug the HELL out of them (be a mosquito swarm) go 24 hrs a day 7 days a week so that the ONLY thing they hear is you and your friends. Use the VC’s tatic of “Grab their belt and don’t let go” This is a battle we CAN NOT LOOSE

  • Mike11C

    Well, if this applies to spouses then, I guess this blows the concept of “community property” out of the water. It’s my understanding that all “property” that exists in a marriage belongs equally to both partners. So, if I have to leave for more than 7 days, the guns at home are as much my wife’s as they are mine. No “transfer” should be necessary. Right?

  • franko35758

    my flag may go “upside down”. my country is in a distressful situation and it’s not getting any better.
    every time you read something about a dam democrat he is so far left and getting worse.
    hang -em all. get Obama’s occidental college records (transcripts) and we solve the problem.
    old sarge,’nam,’vet,’68,’70
    lrrp/abn

    • polmutant

      upside down flag will mean nothing. cause while bent over grabbing ankles it will be right side up. america is gone, without a shot. the sheoples just went welfare, and barry their god delivered.

  • thomas gentile

    I AM REALLY GETTING SICK OF THESE LIBERALS WHAT IS REALLY BAD IS THAT 75 PERCENT OF LIBERALS HAVE WEAPONS . AND THEY ARE SAYING NOTHING > WHAT ARE THEY SICK OR SOMETHING ??? HERE THEY ARE HAVING THEIR COUNTRY DESTROYED BY AN ILLEGAL MUSLIM AND THEY STILL FOLLOW >>> AS SHEEP !!!

  • Steve Simpson

    This is all out of hand. Where do they stop? Who will stop them is the better question. Somehow the government is so far out of control that it seems unstoppable. I am dead serious here, what can be done at this point. I have written all of my state officials that I possibly can. They all write back pledging to support the 2nd amendment (if you can trust them). But it all seems like there is nobody wants to enforce the laws that they have already made. And to make matters worse, there is no shortages of nut sacks who keep shooting up innocent people. I do not commit crimes, and will not give up my guns. Criminals will always have guns. I do not wish to become a criminal, but will do so if it comes to that.

    • oldguy199

      Keep writing- take friends with video equipment and get them on record. in their face 24/7 is what they understand KEEP THE PRESSURE ON

    • joe13

      have any of you heard of prayer? pray for help from above and keep your powder dry.

  • Hans

    Vote out this SOB Communist Senator ASAP !!!! He is a TRAITOR !!!!

    • oldguy199

      What is stopping you from starting a recall???

  • Patriot

    I wish we could get all those dopes and the president in the White House at the same time and drop a bomb on it.

  • Sky Soldier

    Oh, but the idiocy of communists will never cease until they destroy the Constitutional rights of “real” Americans, the economy, jobs, and national sovereignty. To he## with them… ship them and all the illegal aliens to Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Mexico, China, and NoKorea!… Quickly please.

    • ves

      You have a very valid point about ILLEGAL ALIENS and people who overstay their Visas!
      We are NOT under any obligation to return them to their own country …we could in fact physically drop them from a plane into iran or korea syria lybia egypt india pakistan afghanstan china somalia!
      This might be the real solution!!

      • CrustyOldGeezer

        30,000 feet over the mid Atlantic. No parachute…

        That way they have time to reconsider breaking US border laws.

        Sharks like their fresh food well tenderized….

    • oldguy199

      GET off your arse and start a shipping network-you already have 3 below to put to work as associates. Act on it-no one else is (call the press and take video)
      A flood starts with a single drop of rain

    • joe13

      are you giving up?

  • http://www.facebook.com/terry.adams.7902 Terry Adams

    i guess we all elected a bunch of idiots. they need to wake up and smell the roses before the roses die. You idiots work for us not against us. You are not better or smarter than most of us. get of the stick before it gets used on you. We The People are Coming.. like it or not..

  • Mrsiberian

    Schurmer & Bloomberg need to leave the country.

  • The Old Man

    These people are all liars and as deceitful as possible.

  • pikemaster1

    maybe we should invite him over to Bidens house and maybe if we are lucky,joey will take his shotgun and shoot him through the door ??

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7BPGTCVIJI4DZERMYX4ILGD5PU Steve

    Wouldn’t matter if it passed. The people won’t abide by it. And any govt employee that tries to enforrce it would be commiting suicide.

  • LUCKYME

    Shummering is a piece of S–T along with his buddy Nanny Bloomberging

  • omega2

    A charge of SEDITION for all the INSTIGATORS OF THIS DESTRUCTION OF THE CONSTITUTION as so stated about what constitutes SEDITION!!!!-

  • polmutant

    and the the sheoples cry out ” take our wool, eat our children, only leave us grass to eat”, i am a man a proud american man! can i have a food stamp to eat? someone shelter me? i am too poor to pay attention, barry is my god, district of communists is my church, what is a constitution? is it something i ate?

  • monty

    next they wll be requiring a seven day waiting perid for cell phones, government is getting way out of hand

  • don

    With the Attorney General Eric Holder you will only be charged with any crime if you are of any Race other than Black People. Eric Holder does not charge Black people with a crime and you can see that in every case he has charged anyone with using enhancement drugs and not one of them are of the Black Race.

    • m2

      yes the Obama administration is the single most racist American presidency, period. PUT THEM ALL in an ORANGE JUMPSUIT.

  • Sagebrush6

    We sure have some real twofaced, backstabbing scumbag politicians.
    May I have an amen on that. Amen.

    • DenverKitty

      Amen!

    • oldguy199

      CALL THEM-put your boot up their arse-do NOT let the pressure off

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-Zimmermann/1578077838 Rick Zimmermann

    The Jewish Nazi’s in the early years in Germany were responsible for leading 6,000,000 Jews to their DEATHS, Schumer and his minions along with Commander in Islam will lead the SHEEP TO THEIR DEATHS ALSO. Since NONE of the COWARDS in OFFICE will stand up and Charge these TRAITORS with TREASON.

    • oldguy199

      YOU stand up and do it ===For starters, try Conspiracy Against Rights – USC section 241-242

  • http://www.facebook.com/terry.corcoran2 Terry Corcoran

    Who votes for arseholes like Schumer?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Walter/100001083842339 Tom Walter

      “The Gimmies”

  • hayrake

    Completely ridiculous. Doesn’t bother me, personally, quite as bad as the fact they are wanting to make it so you cannot leave your guns to anyone, not even in your own family, when you die. They want them to immediately become property of the government.

    • oldguy199

      WE are the Gov- they are mere employees==Disipline these errant fools

      • hayrake

        I hear you, old guy. Things are turned upside down. That is for certain. One old friend of mine just shakes his head daily, bewildered, saying, “There should be bodies swinging from every tree in Washington.”

  • http://twitter.com/Jstarusa James Star

    Well, we cant do much about it. They pass bills left and right and do not care what we think at all. They are as loony tunes as the mass murders they are supposedly trying to stop! Commonsense does not apply, and probably never will.

    • oldguy199

      Only if you let them–GET IN THEIR FACE

  • ves

    Hmmmm … our only hope might be in stirring up a hornets nest with McConnell!
    The reason he divorced his first wife is she couldn’t keep her pants or and legs together!
    He hates Harry Reid because Harry was doing her and the rest of the story is that’s it’s a good thing he didn’t know about Shummer Durbin and McCain!!
    I have no doubts it’s all true they are all immoral trash!
    So maybe everyone should start tweeting posting emailing calling and faxing McConnell and reminding him of all four of these traitors bedtime romps. …you use whatever weapon is available when you fight for your life!

  • BrassRing

    To quote John Wayne , ” I’m willing to die to keep them, are you willing to die trying to take them?”

    • ves

      I really miss the Duke Ronnie and Heston!
      Yep! I do agree with the quote!

  • http://twitter.com/jamescr54174058 james crawford

    There isn’t a liberal in America that doesn’t need greased.

  • John W.H.

    I say fk chuck

  • Sheldon Sides

    Ive made my peace with the lord. Let them label me whatever. I consider my self a God fearing United States Patriot that took a vow to defend the constitution. If they want to go to war over that, bring it I say!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Walter/100001083842339 Tom Walter

      Me Too Sheldon, I took my oath in ’81 (US Army – 13 Bravo) If they want a war, I’m waiting. MOLON LABE III% See you on the battlefield brother.

  • Jim

    (Music playing)…The inquisition, the inquisition !!!!!

  • Brian Evans

    Amendment II. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
    What seems to be the problem with these people that do not understand the word “INFRINGED”?
    Webster Dictionary defines Infringed as:..
    To break; to violate; to transgress; to neglect to fulfill or obey; as, to infringe a law, right, or contract.

    I will simply choose to not obey, if a couple of million of us choose that same path what the hell do they think they can do? After all i did not vote for these “laws” as they choose to call them. And for the most part I did not choose to live in a police state either.
    I have commited no crime and will resist to the full extent of my being.

  • bba

    What a bunch of crap—

  • http://www.facebook.com/leslie.rish Leslie Haveman Rish

    I read a lot of talk but see no action to realy stop these people, there are no recalls happening, there are no court case happening, we All just sit around doing nothing.

  • rick0857

    This simply cannot stand as a former U.S. Army Staff Sergeant and infantry soldier what happens to those men and women when they are deployed for training (usually lasting from 4-6 week stints) or combat. What about their guns?
    I am so sick of this administration and the proponents of this gun grab and all the other havoc that’s been created and continues to be created by this President and for what reason? To stir up the people to divide us to get us to fight one another so that he can declare Martial Law and take over the country and become Americas first Hugo Chavez Fidel Castro Vladimir Lenin Joseph Stalin?
    When is Congress going to begin impeachment proceedings against this SOB? WHEN???

  • marineh2ominer

    I don’t have any interest in reading it because I am already familiar with what a HUGE A–HOLE Schumer is , The one line the nazi should not have missed was his grandparents .

  • Dumb ole redneck

    Schemer up to his usual ‘Do as I say, not as I do’ crap

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lester-Peoples/1558461120 Lester Peoples

    If Vigilanty war is what the idiots in Washington are wanting they certainly know what to do to prvoke it. how safe do they feel without their armed guards surrounding them and when they have to be alone for short spells do their knees knock and stomach tremble? It Should! If they think Patriots and War Vets are going to just standby and watch our constitution be wiped away they had better think again!

  • http://www.facebook.com/carl.carlson.37266 Carl Carlson

    Any one who supports this bill should be exposed. I mean a continuing exposure right up to 2014 elections.

  • sgtshel

    Chuckie Shummerless is pretty close to the biggest liar in government!

  • jag57

    Under this National Socialist’s United States, your home is no longer your castle. Does this mean homes are going to be routinely invaded by thugs, wanting to check your guns, and if you have left town, with an unrelated person still there? My next question is, are they going to bring a search warrant with them, and unless they have now admitted we are living under a totalitarian dictator, there would have to be a reason to issue a search warrant for a home invasion.

 
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