How much coarser can the wh be to have an illegal arabian office who tramples on the Constitution every chance he gets and kisses ass with our enemies? Sounds to me that the clean up needs to start in dc!

Semper Fidels

this is long but worth the read:

Second Amendment in context:

***”The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil
interference. They deserve a place of honor with all that is good. When
firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour.” – George Washington in
address to the 2nd session of the United States Congress.

***“Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the
peoples’ liberty’s teeth.” (George Washington)

***”The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most
governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the
narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the
right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext
whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of
destruction.” Henry St. George Tucker, in Blackstone’s 1768 “Commentaries on
the Laws of England.”, Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court & U.S. Dist.
Court of Virginia

***”Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are
neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse
for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare
Beccaria

Those who argue that the Second Amendment was written just for militias are
completely blown out of the water by the following quote from Thomas Jefferson.

“The strongest reason for “PEOPLE” (My emphasis) to retain the right to
keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
in government.” – Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C. J. Boyd, Ed.,
1950)

James Madison is credited with the writing of the “Bill of Rights” and was
pretty clear about the meaning on the Second Amendment.

“The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans
possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are
afraid to trust the “PEOPLE” (My emphasis) with arms.”

Here are a few others who help define the true meaning of the Second Amendment.
It becomes very clear upon the examination of the meanings attached to the
Second Amendment by our Founding Fathers that the original intent of the Second
Amendment is being attacked in order to eventually disarm the American people.

***”I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a
few public officials.”

George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the
Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

***”Whereas civil-rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before
them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be
occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the
injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in
their right to keep and bear their private arms.”

– Tench Coxe, in Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal
Constitution

***”The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they
be properly armed.”

– Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188

***”That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize
Congress to INFRINGE (MY BOLD) the just liberty of the press or the rights of
conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable
citizens from keeping their own arms … ”

– Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth
of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

***”Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they
are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can
be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the
command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be
just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will
instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which
appears to them unjust and oppressive.”

–Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal
Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

***”No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”

– Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers,
334,[C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950]

***” … to disarm the people – that was the best and most effectual way
to enslave them.”

– George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380

***”The right [to bear arms] is general. It may be supposed from the
phraseology of this provision that the right to keep and bear arms was only
guaranteed to the militia; but this would be an interpretation not warranted by
the intent. The militia, as has been explained elsewhere, consists of those
persons who, under the laws, are liable to the performance of military duty,
and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon…. [I]f the right
were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of the guarantee might be defeated
altogether by the action or the neglect to act of the government it was meant
to hold in check. The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people,
from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear
arms, and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose. But
this enables the government to have a well-regulated militia; for to bear arms
implies something more than mere keeping; it implies the learning to handle and
use them in a way that makes those who keep them ready for their efficient use;
in other words, it implies the right to meet for voluntary discipline in arms,
observing in so doing the laws of public order.”

– Thomas M. Cooley, General Principles of Constitutional Law, Third Edition
[1898]

PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE NEXT QUOTE!

***”Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that
we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power
to disarm the militia. Their “SWORDS, AND EVERY OTHER TERRIBLE IMPLEMENT OF THE
SOLDIER”, (MY BOLD) are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power
of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments,
but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the
people.”

–Tenche Coxe, an American political economist and a delegate for Pennsylvania
to the Continental Congress, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

Then there are politicians who insist in taking our Constitution out of context
of time and original meaning. Once again, James Madison warned us against this.

“Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have
perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted,
bastardized form of illegitimate government.”

Second Amendment:

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the
right of the people to KEEP and BEAR arms, shall not be INFRINDGED.”

Arms, in the context and time when our Constitution was written meant the usual
arms carried by militia members, everyday citizens or light infantry in the
Continental Army. Many of these arms were supplied by their owners for militia
duty and were personal weapons initially used for hunting or home defense. They
came in all types and calibers; from a 30 cal. squirrel rifle to a 75 cal.
smooth bore musket, pistols and shotguns of all types, calibers and gauges.
They also included a huge variety of other arms including: knives of every
conceivable shape and size, bayonets and swords. Many early citizens also
carried tomahawks.

Attempts to control the type and or caliber of arms Americans’ can possess are
absolutely against The Constitution and the Second Amendment as it was written
and intended. By the supreme law of the land (The Constitution), an American
citizen should be able to keep and bear any weapon now used individually by our
light infantry soldiers.

Larger weapons such as cannon and mortars that could not be carried by an
individual soldier or required more than one person to operate were considered
to be “ordinance” and were not defined as “arms”.

Words have meanings! If those meanings are bastardized all becomes chaos.

“Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have
perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted,
bastardized form of illegitimate government.” James Madison

Definition of to KEEP: to hold or retain in one’s possession; hold as one’s
own.

Definition of to BEAR: to carry, transmit, transport, have a characteristic of
and exhibit.

Definition of INFRINGE: to “encroach” upon in a way that violates law or the
rights of another.

THIS IS THE WORD MOST FORGETEN……INFRINGE!!!!! Read the meaning!!!

Definition of INFRINGE/ENCROACH…….. 1: to enter by gradual steps or by stealth
into the possessions or rights of another. 2: to advance beyond the usual or
proper limits

Why is this so hard to understand? The meanings of the words in the Second
Amendment have not changed since the amendment was ratified.

I am not aware of the Second Amendment being repealed or amended.

In reference to arms control by the states; the Fourteenth Amendment Section
.1. is crystal clear.

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State
wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge
the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; (My emphasis)
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without
due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Many in politics from the legislative, administrative branches and or judges
cite “precedent” as a justification for the violations of our rights as
guaranteed in The Constitution of These United States of America. Precedent
only describes what has been done and gotten away with, not if it was done in
compliance with the supreme law of the land or in accordance with the oath of
office to uphold The Constitution.

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What epidemic? There are more people killed by hammers and clubs that firearms. But they do not want to talk about that. It does not help their agenda. Obama has just made his dream come true. He has always been against people owning guns. He said that even before he became a Senator. He just waited for the right opportunity to come along. Sadly it was the death of some young children that he took advantage of. How come none of you see that?

THIS guy is lecturing Americans about “courseness”? Here’s creepy Uncle Joe slobbering all over a biker chick: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/joe-biden-and-the-biker-chick/

Robert A. Heinlein, a Science Fiction author was VERY pro-gun. He believed everyone should carry a weapon at all times, partly because “an armed society is a polite society.” So, he and Mr. Biden have slightly different opinions on what would reduce the “coarsity of American culture.” I would believe Mr Heinlein much sooner than I would Mr. Biden.

Coming from Biden, he of the “Big f*ing deal” comment, and the truth that his big, coarse mouth is usually full of his foot (when the former is not wrapped around something hard and round in the English language), that’s a big laugh.
This guys example of leadership starts with his nose up against his leaders bum and snorting “forward!”. Simple fact is, I’ve never, EVER, considered using my guns for violent purposes. Until these two came along and have done their best to convince me that as a law-abiding citizen of long standing, maybe I shouldn’t be.
America will be well rid of these miserable excuses of what is worst in the field of politics. Anyone who would use the tragedy of dead children, made so by a nut-case, are less than civilized- they’re opportunistic barbarians. I view them more and more as nothing but the American versions of the Osama bin Laden or the Blind Sheikh’s followers, shouting “Death to America!” Little do THEY know.

” . . . as part of larger effort to lessen ‘coarsity of American culture’”

Joe is a moron.

Perhaps his “Coarsity Efforts” would be better served is he stopped supporting abortion, nob-gobblers, the destruction of the American Family and the socialist agenda. Idiot.

Biden…what a human joke! Somebody fertilized an olive with expired sperm from brain dead doner and came up with Biden……

I know this sounds pretty drastic, but it would solve the big problem we have. If all the secret service personal protecting Obama Bin Laden were to wipe him out they would be heroes like Seal Team Six. Problem solved. Biden would run for the hills and a lot of those suck ups of Obama would hit the road too. Oh I know, that’s not nice, just a thought.